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post #1 of 13 Old 12-26-2012, 05:17 PM Thread Starter
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aggressive mare sharing paddock with my mare, please help!

we recently moved our 2 year old mare to a different stable two months ago where she is in a paddock with an alpha mare and gelding. My girl Mabel is extremely sweet and shows no aggression. Jane the other mare is still constantly trying to keep her title of alpha even though Mabel shows no signs of challenging her. She backs up on me and is crazy when I feed in the mornings pinning her ears back and rear to me. The other day she cornered Mabel in the barn and just started kicking and didn't stop until I was able to get there. I'm worried she's going to hurt me or my horse and not sure how to handle the situation. There's not another paddock we could move her to either. Any advice would help!

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post #2 of 13 Old 12-26-2012, 08:33 PM
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It could be that the other mare is showing she is the alpha which can be dangerous. When you go in to feed I would carry a buggy whip and make that mare stand back until she gets rid of her snotty attitude by pinning her ears/rearing at you. Is the other mare your's or someone else's? I have four of my own horses and one boarded here, when I take out hay for them they know they can not touch it till it hits the ground, they can not grab bites of it off the sled or wagon......I carry a buggy whip and if they don't listen they get a good whap on the nose. I don't always carry the whip out with me and on those times they all wait for the hay to hit the ground.
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When a new horse came another doorway had to be created in the barn as the new horse was inclined to corner one and kick at. I also had to install ribbon in the corners of the paddock to eliminate the corners. The paddock itself had to have a second opening. It is in the pasture so escape was made much easier for the horse being persued.
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post #4 of 13 Old 12-27-2012, 05:14 AM
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we recently moved our 2 year old mare to a different stable two months ago where she is in a paddock with an alpha mare and gelding. My girl Mabel is extremely sweet and shows no aggression. Jane the other mare is still constantly trying to keep her title of alpha even though Mabel shows no signs of challenging her. She backs up on me and is crazy when I feed in the mornings pinning her ears back and rear to me. The other day she cornered Mabel in the barn and just started kicking and didn't stop until I was able to get there. I'm worried she's going to hurt me or my horse and not sure how to handle the situation. There's not another paddock we could move her to either. Any advice would help!

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Mares are very serious about their pecking order, but if it has been 2 months and considering her attitude with you, this is more than just an alpha mare thing, this is an aggressive mare that doesn't respect people, either. I'm sorry that I don't have any great advice, but if they can't be separated, I wouldn't be boarding my horse there.
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post #5 of 13 Old 12-27-2012, 05:25 AM
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My question would be, why are you still boarding at this place and possibly putting your mare in danger?

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Tarastone, I feel ya. I moved to a new stable and lasted 4 weeks. Last straw was a gelding that came after me, then my horse. I second what paintmares said and, although its less than ideal, I would encourage you to move.

In the meanwhile, grab a whip and don't be a chicken like I was lol, use it!

I know how tough boarding is. It puts you at the mercy of other people's decisions (BO, other boarders, etc). I moved 48 hours after the gelding incident, have been at this million dollar farm now for a month and, as life goes, we are moving on Jan 12 b/c a trainer I've wanted to work with for a year now has a stall.

If all else fails, tell the BO this mare is dangerous and you want them to pull her first, or catch her before you get your horse... Tell them you are not feeling safe. Put the liability on the BO and keep yourself safe. Start looking and talking to people about moving, you may be surprised by what's out there.

Good luck and sorry you're in this spot, it stinks! (But not as bad as a wicked vet or hospital bill!!)
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I would be concerned, since you have had to get the alpha mare off yours, that she will really hurt your girl. Yeah, it is dangerous for you, and Herds suggestions are good, but what about when noone is there? Horses DO seriously injure and even kil each other. I would be moving my horse. Your little girl is only a baby too, poor thing.

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This is just my experience. I put my 2 year old 14 hh horse with my 8 year old 11h pony mare. My 11hh is a leader and pretty aggressive. Even though the 2 year old was obviously bigger she ran away and she learned the hard way not to get to close. She did not get hurt badly but she knew what not to do again. She was young and not confident but she learned to keep her distance and respect the older horse. She soon grew confident with age and experience through experiences with me or other horses and soon learned how to be a leader herself. It didn't happen overnight but she slowly learned how to throw her weight around. They were fine for a while but then my 2 year old then turned 3 and started challenging the older mare. That is where things got rough. The 8 year old although small is very tough but they were fighting over who was the boss and they did get a few scraps and right now the 3 year old is alpha although 8 year old not exactly happy about and still tries to regain control but they can eat together and found ways of stealing each other feed without getting hurt. Sneaky things. Plus they both don't want to get hurt so they usually just "show/act" like they are tough but 3 year old much more convincing being bigger.

Guess my main point is, if you have no choice but to stay there. Your horse might get hurt unfortunately. In the wild you would not be there to protect her. She would have to learn how to stand for herself or just find a way play safe. Depends on her. But you can help her by training her and boosting her confidence. I would talk to the owner of that horse if it is rearing on you. You have the right to protect yourself. Maybe the owner of the horse may even work on her horse and you can find a solution....hopefully.
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Where you board out , can they not move her to a different stall , away from the mare? Have you talked to the owner or somebody to try and work it out ? If they weren't willing to help , I would have to find another barn , to risky for the mare and yourself imo !
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This is just my experience. I put my 2 year old 14 hh horse with my 8 year old 11h pony mare. My 11hh is a leader and pretty aggressive. Even though the 2 year old was obviously bigger she ran away and she learned the hard way not to get to close. She did not get hurt badly but she knew what not to do again. She was young and not confident but she learned to keep her distance and respect the older horse. She soon grew confident with age and experience through experiences with me or other horses and soon learned how to be a leader herself. It didn't happen overnight but she slowly learned how to throw her weight around. They were fine for a while but then my 2 year old then turned 3 and started challenging the older mare. That is where things got rough. The 8 year old although small is very tough but they were fighting over who was the boss and they did get a few scraps and right now the 3 year old is alpha although 8 year old not exactly happy about and still tries to regain control but they can eat together and found ways of stealing each other feed without getting hurt. Sneaky things. Plus they both don't want to get hurt so they usually just "show/act" like they are tough but 3 year old much more convincing being bigger.

Guess my main point is, if you have no choice but to stay there. Your horse might get hurt unfortunately. In the wild you would not be there to protect her. She would have to learn how to stand for herself or just find a way play safe. Depends on her. But you can help her by training her and boosting her confidence. I would talk to the owner of that horse if it is rearing on you. You have the right to protect yourself. Maybe the owner of the horse may even work on her horse and you can find a solution....hopefully.
Issue is, in this situation, it sounds as if the alpha mare is able to corner the young one. That is how they get killed. As Saddlebag said, eliminating corners will help a lot. It allows her to escape. In the wild, they are not fenced in, so that is not even applicable. Cintillate-there ARE horses who will kill other ones. Period. Much less likely if they cannot get cornered, but I cure would not take that chance if she were mine.

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