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  • Yearling barging over me when in hand

 
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    01-04-2010, 01:12 PM
  #21
Foal
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Originally Posted by AlmagroN    
WHAT?!?!

i agree ^^

I do sometimes use a whip when handling a young horse if needed, or give them a thump if they barge me, i'm not a believer in letting the horse walk all over me - I do believe that they have to be put in their place, but there's ways to do it and I don't think i'd do the blunt nail trick, tbh might turn out dangerous if they decided to go all spooked about it?
     
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    01-04-2010, 01:15 PM
  #22
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by fizzylizzy    
i agree ^^

I do sometimes use a whip when handling a young horse if needed, or give them a thump if they barge me, i'm not a believer in letting the horse walk all over me - I do believe that they have to be put in their place, but there's ways to do it and I don't think i'd do the blunt nail trick, tbh might turn out dangerous if they decided to go all spooked about it?
did not say blunt, just DULL..... nothing like puncturing a horse to prove a point!!!
     
    01-04-2010, 01:16 PM
  #23
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlmagroN    
did not say blunt, just DULL..... nothing like puncturing a horse to prove a point!!!
oops sorry, meant to put dull but was thinking blunt for some reason, and I don't think you're going to puncture them, lol, I do know what you mean but it wouldn't be something i'd do myself!
     
    01-04-2010, 01:18 PM
  #24
Foal
Duh am I getting mixed up with who i'm talking to here? sorry peeps, i'm tired!
     
    01-04-2010, 01:18 PM
  #25
Yearling
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Originally Posted by fizzylizzy    
oops sorry, meant to put dull but was thinking blunt for some reason, and I don't think you're going to puncture them, lol, I do know what you mean but it wouldn't be something i'd do myself!
if they run into it hard enough to will. Think about a horse who runs into you with its shoulder NOT knowing its there. They wont know that if they ram you so hard it will puncture... what if something spooks them and they run into you. Theyre nothing thinking "boy I better stop or else im going to get poked with a nail!"
     
    01-04-2010, 01:19 PM
  #26
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlmagroN    
if they run into it hard enough to will. Think about a horse who runs into you with its shoulder NOT knowing its there. They wont know that if they ram you so hard it will puncture... what if something spooks them and they run into you. Theyre nothing thinking "boy I better stop or else im going to get poked with a nail!"
i know, that's exactly why I wouldn't do it!
     
    01-04-2010, 01:19 PM
  #27
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlmagroN    
WHAT?!?!




You need to learn how "tools" actually should be used. You don't CRANK on stud chains. They are there to let the horse feel pressure when they push against them and therefore they do not like the feeling and stop.

And im sorry but this NEVER means the horse is "safe" to handle. What it can mean is they are easier, but not safe. He also will look for a time that you JUST HAPPEN to let your guard down because you "think" he's safe. Then you can feel how safe he is.
You're going to tell me that you have never cranked a stud chain on a stallion when they purposely charge your space or disrespect you?? I'm not saying crank the stud chain all day every day, but if they aren't listening to you, they need to learn what the stud chain is there for! If he is just going to stand there, and no amount of waving hands, tapping with lead rope, or making noise is going to make him move, crank the stud chain and make him back up! I've seen all my dressage trainer do it, and everyone else I know that owns a stallion or a snotty gelding.
     
    01-04-2010, 01:23 PM
  #28
Yearling
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Originally Posted by laceyf53    
You're going to tell me that you have never cranked a stud chain on a stallion when they purposely charge your space or disrespect you?? I'm not saying crank the stud chain all day every day, but if they aren't listening to you, they need to learn what the stud chain is there for! If he is just going to stand there, and no amount of waving hands, tapping with lead rope, or making noise is going to make him move, crank the stud chain and make him back up! I've seen all my dressage trainer do it, and everyone else I know that owns a stallion or a snotty gelding.
you want my honesty? Yep, never have. Because I KNOW how its supposed to be used. And its NOT there to crank on. A nice loud voice correction works in conjunction with the stud chain when its used right. If you have a stud chain on a horse they SHOULDNT be able to charge you anyway
     
    01-04-2010, 01:25 PM
  #29
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlmagroN    
you want my honesty? Yep, never have. Because I KNOW how its supposed to be used. And its NOT there to crank on. A nice loud voice correction works in conjunction with the stud chain when its used right. If you have a stud chain on a horse they SHOULDNT be able to charge you anyway
i suppose different people work in differents ways, and they do what they prefer - which others might not prefer. It might work for some people and their horses, and it might not work for other people and their horses. I'd say as long as it isn't putting either you or the horse in any sort of threat or serious danger, if it works for you and the horse, do it!
     
    01-04-2010, 01:27 PM
  #30
Yearling
But that kind of behavior IMHO has no place in training horses
     

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