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post #1 of 48 Old 06-26-2012, 06:34 PM Thread Starter
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All Equestrian Sport should be Banned?

I stumbled across this site today and I am curious about what people think of this guy. His name is Alexander Nevzorov and he claims that one day, our grandchildren will look back on the days when horses were ridden and feel as ashamed as we feel now thinking of slavery and concentration camps. He also feels all equestrian sports should not be considered sport because the horse “does not want to be engaged in this sport but is forced to it by pain and beating.” He has a photo gallery titled "The Horrors of Equestrian Sport" to prove this point.

So, instead, we need to connect with our horse’s soul and become the horse's friend. I liked The difference of Nevzorov Haute Ecole from other schools and ways of horsemanship section, where he compares his teachings to other schools of thought. Guess I'm a cruel, horrible, heartless person...I should be teaching my horse Latin!

Seriously though, he looks like a decent horse person and a good rider, even if he doesn't ride anymore. What do you guys think?
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post #2 of 48 Old 06-26-2012, 06:41 PM
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Horses that don't like to race don't tend to stay at the track for long in my experience. They don't win and then there is no sense in having them stay at the track. For a horse to excel at something they have to like it a little. They way 1000 pounds we can't really force them to do anything by brute force. My horses seem to genuinely like being fussed over. I have a mare that gets jealous when I don't spend enough time with her. I don't see a world in which people are having horses as pets and not using them. When we stop riding horses then most of the world stops having horses. Thats just my thoughts on it.
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post #3 of 48 Old 06-26-2012, 06:47 PM
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He's a nutjob.

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post #4 of 48 Old 06-26-2012, 06:57 PM
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I think he and the guy who does"friendship training are smoking the same pipe.
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Yes, they are nutjobs. Agree totally.

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post #5 of 48 Old 06-26-2012, 09:43 PM
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Who says he doesn't ride any more? So far as I know, he does, but not as a utility - he rides to play with his horses, not to go from a to b.

I think he is a fanatic & goes way over the top personally, but I do agree with the basic premise that his fanaticism is based on. I think there is way too much 'use' of horses without consideration, caring or respect for them as sentient beings. I think there is much abuse that goes on in the equestrian 'sports', frequently not even recognised as such. I do think the competitive focus encourages & allows this. However, I don't think for a minute that just because someone does these sort of things means they are necessarily cruel, uncaring, etc, etc.

I do also think he is inspirational to watch & see what he can do with his horses, especially at liberty.
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post #6 of 48 Old 06-26-2012, 09:50 PM
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As crazy as a fruitloop... Also full of poo...

And no, he doesn't ride at all anymore... He used to think it was okay to ride for half an hour but not it is no longer okay.

His horses have all been previously trained by using traditional dressage methods...
He condradicts himself..

I do understand that there is cruelty in the horse world... Cruelty is everywhere... Try to stop it as much as you can but it has always been there and will continue to be there.

Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.

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it sure is fun to watch him work with the horses. But not everyone is going to be like that. IT's extremeism for sure.
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I had seen him on TV and he is very gifted and I enjoyed watching him. It would be nice if people could care more about the well being of animals. Some of the things that people do are upsetting so I didn't watch the horrors link but they do unfortunately exist and maybe if everyone could make a difference we could stop cruelty.

Some horses look very willing because they would be beaten if they showed discomfort. My sister took some photo's at a reining show and I mentioned how I was surprised the horses looked happy. She said that they didn't she just didn't show the photo's of their mouths gaping and being jerked around. I personally wouldn't engage in any equestrian events that would be painful and rough on a horse as there are plenty of other things to do with them.
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First of all, I believe that when done correctly horseback riding is a wonderful and peacefull sport. Now to and standardbred racing is cruel depending on the care and how young they start, dressage and jumping can be cruel if people hang and pop horses in the mouth or use spurs incorrectly, and some WP is done incorrectly, and various other disciplines can be cruel. Heck, walking can be cruel if you have a curb and their neck is cranked in. But the cruelty of riding all goes back to dumbess in a humans part, not knowing better, being taught that way, and several others reason. If all people were taught how to care for and treat all animals on Earth then nothing would be able to be cruel.
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post #10 of 48 Old 06-26-2012, 11:01 PM
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He's a nutjob.
That was the exact thought that went through my head. I hate to be the voice of reason and rain on his little parade, but his horses don't look exactly happy. Last time I checked, well adjusted, well trained, and happy horses didn't attack their handlers....
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