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        02-20-2010, 08:49 AM

    So, Hello Everyone !

    Indigo and me have been doing wonderful there is no doubt !
    My new issue though, I was riding with my dad's friend and she was on pepper and marshy (switching them up)
    So anyway's Indigo was a bit full of himself, no biggie.. I love my push button horses but he was pretty fresh lol.
    He was good, but he would try to pull to the food, pull to go see pepper or marshy, (he likes to run along side horses, my dad things he was one of those horses they use to get racehorses confidence up, to win and he was taught to loose.)
    Anyways, he was tossing his head ALOT !
    With abit of persuasion I was able to get him to listen to me.

    Boy, we have alot of work to do, just when I think I almost got everything, something new pops up !
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        02-20-2010, 10:02 AM
    Are you concerned with him tossing his head, or trying to run through your aids to get to the food and other horses?

    Either way, in a situation like that, you can start out doing transitions and circles and serpentine's on the trail, to get him to focus on you instead of all the other fascinating things around him.

    I'm glad you two are coming along well though. =]
        02-20-2010, 11:35 AM
    Im more concerned with the running out, as much as the tossing is annoying, I can manage.

    :) I was working on ALOT of circles with him yesterday :)
        02-20-2010, 04:25 PM
    But why is he tossing? My instructor's old angloarab tosses because he's old and his back hurts.
        02-20-2010, 06:38 PM
    ^^I think the head tossing might be a way of him trying to escape the bit--He tries to run through, she reins him back in and around in a circle, he tosses his head in protest.
        02-20-2010, 09:21 PM
    I wasnt riding him in a bit. Just a halter and a lead ropes attached to the halter.
    As I had mentioned, he likes to run along side or walk beside horses, and I am trying to teach him to be confident, so I don't have trouble when I ride by myself.
    I don't like it when I have a buddy sour horse or anything.
    He is quite buddy sour ish.
    So when I move him away, he will try to pull me back towards pepper or marshmallow, but when I redirect his attention he stops.
    He only puts a small fight.
    Last thing I want is to go for a ride, and have my OTTB unmanageable and get hurt.

    I don't have him in a bit yet because he is a cribber and his teeth need to be floated, his bottom teeth are very long.

    I do agree with Sambam, He would do that if I had the bit in or not, he is doing it in protest, because as I mentioned he wants to go with pepper or marshmallow, but I wont let him, so I rein him in a few circles and go on my thing, protest with him a bit more over the subject etc.
    It is definitally not from pain.
        02-20-2010, 09:25 PM
    I would say then just go out and ride by yourself---don't try to break the habit by confronting him with it (would you give someone on a diet a giant piece of chocolate cake?) since that will most likely result in a larger fight and possibly you getting hurt. Then when he's confident by himself re-introduce him to riding with others.
        02-20-2010, 09:31 PM
    Okay, that sounds pretty reasonable.
    Ty Sambam :)
        02-20-2010, 09:33 PM
    LOL no problem! I have the same problem with Ice...he sees someone across the arena and wants to go be with them! And if they're moving faster than he is....forget it. He zones out completely.
        02-20-2010, 09:35 PM
    Haha yeah, and like whenever marshmallow are trotting or something, like I was riding marshmallow too and Indigo is trotting and following behind us.
    My dad is pretty positive that he was a horse they used in training other horses to win and taught him to loose, after all he only won 1 race out of his 15 starts.

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