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    12-18-2012, 09:58 PM
alternative to snaffle?

OK so I have a 2 1/2 yr old paso fino who hates his snaffle. He's mouthy, unresponsive, head tossing, the works. Is there anything I can get him that's not harsh because he's still learning? I'm afraid a Mullen mouth would be too soft, but a kimberwick is way too harsh. Someone suggested a french link. I've never had one so I don't know. I have a curb which he likes but I don't need the leverage. Suggestions????
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    12-18-2012, 10:01 PM
Green Broke
Is the curb a solid, ported mouthpiece? If so, get a snaffle with the solid mouthpiece.
Id try a french link/double jointed snaffle as well..That's what Im doing with my mare because she can't handle the nutcracker effect the single joint has, I suspect she has a low pallet. She loves the 3-piece reiner I have (we moved up to it, and then back to snaffle after a. 2 month break with someone else riding her).
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    12-18-2012, 10:03 PM
He probably isn't use to it and hasn't been taught to give instead of fight

I'm just teaching my 2 yr old about the bit. I use a snaffle.
The first day he wanted to fight but I taught him that if he gives to the pressure it's automatically released. He doesn't fight (no head throwing or anything) but he still doesn't respond super quick. Itl come with time.
    12-18-2012, 10:05 PM
Bosal? Or you could try a bit with more or less joints. Other than that all you could do is go to an argentine, but those are broken like a snaffle and the have leverage..the 2 things your looking to get rid of
    12-18-2012, 10:09 PM
Green Broke
Have you tried any of the Happy Mouth bits? I highly recommend the double joint snaffle, my horse LOVES it and he was exactly as you describe your horse to be. Now he actually grabs the bridle out of my hands and I have to fight to get it back after our ride.

Another thing to think about is if your horse could possibly be in pain. Saddle fit could cause the behavior you describe as well as other things.. Horses with some type of stress or tummy issue (such as developing ulcers) are NOTORIOUS for tossing the head, being unresponsive, etc because their mind is not on their work, it's on their pain.
    12-18-2012, 10:12 PM
Green Broke
Here is an example of a horse with a pain issue, in this case diagnosed ulcers. This was my horse last year at our first show of the season. Just wanted to show that it may not necessarily be a bit issue.

    12-18-2012, 10:16 PM
The bit he has is a rubberized d ring. He's been in the snaffle for over a month with no real progress. The curb was a solid mouthpiece with a low curve. Do they make one without the shanks? I think that would be perfect
    12-18-2012, 10:20 PM
Cinny you may have something there. He's been coughing a lot when I get him back to the barn the last few times I've been on him which I thought was weird.
    12-18-2012, 10:22 PM
Green Broke
They do make one without shanks..I use to ride my old lease horse in one. Ill look tonight and see if I can link one or two for ya :p
They also have ones with very small shanks (like..a ring connected to the snaffle ring with next to no leverage).
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    12-18-2012, 10:53 PM
Green Broke
I can't remember the name of the bits, but I did get an idea, lol.
You could always get a kimberwicke or phelham and only use the snaffle ring and see how that works out.
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