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  • Equiami training aid good or bad?
  • Dorsal spinous process resection rehabilitation programme

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    01-27-2013, 08:13 PM
  #51
Trained
Well there is also this

The Effect of the Pessoa Training Aid on Temporal, Linear and Angular Variables of the Working Trot | eurodressage

Sorry can't cut and paste from there

Also

Peasebrook Equine Rehab - About Us


It is impossible to describe all the conditions we deal with as there are so many different presentations especially horses that have suffered a traumatic incident such as a fall or road traffic accident. These cases can have all manner of pain, muscle spasm, dysfunction, muscle wastage etc. Generally speaking the sooner a horse receives treatment after a trauma, the better.
There is no substitute for "knowing what works" but we also incorporate new treatments as they come along in order to evaluate them. There is very little published work on results of different treatments and therapies mainly due to the unique features of many cases, with many variables, making direct case comparisons difficult. This means that one seldom gets enough case numbers with a similar enough profile to be able to apply statistics to the data. Success of a case is judged by elimination of lameness, return to previous level of performance in a dressage horse for example, or number of races completed and level of prize money achieved in the racing industry.
Many of our rehabilitation patients are recovering from back treatments ranging from dorsal spinous process resection to facet joint medication and release of muscle spasm. With surgical cases, wound healing is the initial concern and often we cross-tie horses to prevent them lying down and disrupting sutures. Thereafter we start exercise to prevent unwanted adhesions and promote mobility. Horses with primary muscular spasm are treated in a variety of ways including deep muscle massage, acupuncture, tissue injection and osteopathic manipulation. They then enter a ground schooling program; we use Pessoa and Equi-Ami training aids which encourage the horse to work in the correct outline to promote the right muscle development to support the vertebral column. We also encourage patients to work long and low to allow stretching, flexing and enabling the horse to find a natural balance. Close scrutiny of the horse at exercise allows us to assess symmetry of action on both reins.
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We can Cut and paste all day, but the Pessoa type is not hock hobbles, used properly it is not designed to 'sock them in the mouth' Used wrongly it is as abusive as you care to make it, used properly a lot of people find it beneficial.
     
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    01-27-2013, 08:29 PM
  #52
Green Broke
I think you should get one and show us your progress I'm sure it can help some people that might be uncomfortable long lighting
     
    01-27-2013, 08:44 PM
  #53
Green Broke
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Golden Horse I was surprised to see this thread you made. From your responses above you seem to like the pessoa but in this thread you are making fun of it. So I am more confused or is it just because Faye likes it you do??
     
    01-27-2013, 08:57 PM
  #54
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by churumbeque    
you use the inside rein to bend at the poll. There are plenty of articles on it and I just read 1 by Jane Savoi . I think she might have a little more experience than any of us. When I use side reins I have that much looser than you have your system . I think it is tight and I don't see that the horse could bend if it wanted to and Golden Horse I have a friesian cross and it moved quite odd until I spent many long hours of working it with long lines and lunging and just using a whip to drive it forward . I assume you're interested in the system because of the horse in your avatar which is moving quite oddley also . It is a freisian thing to move with the rear end too far back and pulling themselves around with the front end and it takes a lot of work to get the moving correctly .
I wanted to correct this statement about him moving oddly. I was just going by his stride in your avitar and saw pictures of a cowboy riding him in a thread. He looked quit nice in those pictures. Your avitar doesn't do him justice.
     
    01-27-2013, 08:58 PM
  #55
Trained
Churumbeque, if you are unable to see the difference between making fun of this



And this



Then I feel sorry for you.

I support the PROPER use of such items, as an aid, not as a demand.

I don't know how much clearer I can make my position, while there ARE good and bad gadgets and training aids, it is true that some people should not use any gadget, because they really think that cranking stuff to it's tightest makes it more effective.

I have not myself used the Pessoa type system, but I have been researching it with an open mind, and am convinced that used correctly this will be a beneficial aid in my situation. I have not yet decided if I should go for the original, or a knock off, or for the Equi Ami system, but one will be coming here shortly.
     
    01-27-2013, 09:04 PM
  #56
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
churumbeque, if you are unable to see the difference between making fun of this



And this



Then I feel sorry for you.

I support the PROPER use of such items, as an aid, not as a demand.

I don't know how much clearer I can make my position, while there ARE good and bad gadgets and training aids, it is true that some people should not use any gadget, because they really think that cranking stuff to it's tightest makes it more effective.

I have not myself used the Pessoa type system, but I have been researching it with an open mind, and am convinced that used correctly this will be a beneficial aid in my situation. I have not yet decided if I should go for the original, or a knock off, or for the Equi Ami system, but one will be coming here shortly.
Your thread says." Shame this is truer than we think." It does not show a horse moving calmly like you just posted nor does it make any statements except you knocking it. I am just going by your thread and not adding anything to it. It sounds like you are making fun of it to me.
     
    01-28-2013, 10:51 AM
  #57
Trained
I cannot help what you decide to perceive from threads, I have tried my best to explain, I obviously lack the skills to help you to see what I see, and that's OK not everyone gets me, not everyone sees the difference, don't feel badly.
     

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