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post #11 of 34 Old 07-16-2008, 12:16 AM Thread Starter
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He's a bit hard headed (and i honestly think that he thinks I'm stupid) so I'm going to see if my mom can talk to him first because he listens to her more. Then if that fails I will tell him, but I have NEVER said anything like this to him before. Pretty much just "ok i'll do that" and that's about it....
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post #12 of 34 Old 07-16-2008, 07:50 AM
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First off, I take offense in calling him a cowboy - archaic trainer is more like it. Today's cowboys have a lot of respect for their horses. His methods sound more like the methods that may have been used by relics like Monty Robert's father.

Ask a horse so he understands what you want and he'll be your trusting partner. Make a horse do what you want and you have an unhappy machine. The former may take more time but the result is more natural.

As for your dilemma, I would have your mother talk to him but I would bet that, unless she is a savvy horsewoman, he will dismiss any of her concerns about you as a rant from an unknowledgable little girl. Keep your horse away from him as long as possible but you may have little choice - I'm sorry for both you and your horse.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining why I'm right.

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post #13 of 34 Old 07-16-2008, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
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^^^^ I didn't mean to offend you Iride.... he calls himself a cowboy, so that's why I said that... :( Does cowpuncher or something like that work?

But here's my new game plan! I found out I can't move Duke out there until Friday or later because he's going to the dentisit tomorrow :) My mom suggested I use his words against him (at the time it sounded dumb) but then I got to thinking last night and realized that just yesterday he said that he takes more pride in things he accomplished then in things that were given to him and that he respects them more. Anyone see where I'm going at yet?

Well, between that and the fact that his horse Boomer is the horse that ONLY he can ride I think I have a valid case of using his words against him. Maybe I'll try to talk to him about it, because odds are he won't listen to my mom that much either. I've never said anything that goes against him, so this will be a big eye opener for him.

Any more advice is appreciated!!
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post #14 of 34 Old 07-16-2008, 07:39 PM
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^^^^ I didn't mean to offend you Iride....
No offence taken, I hope you know I was only kidding.

As for your plan - I like it. It puts his own words right back at him, as you said.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining why I'm right.

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post #15 of 34 Old 07-16-2008, 09:29 PM
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I have to give you a lot of credit mlkarel2010. I probably would have been thrown out of this guy's barn a long time ago if I had witnessed his training technics. I'm not one for abuse as a teaching tool.
Anyway this guy sounds like he has an ego. Using his own words to get your point across should work really well. He will no doubt love the fact that you listen to what he has preached.
Good luck with Duke. It sounds like you are very smart and with age will be a great trainer.
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post #16 of 34 Old 07-16-2008, 10:54 PM
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I have to give you a lot of credit mlkarel2010. I probably would have been thrown out of this guy's barn a long time ago if I had witnessed his training technics. I'm not one for abuse as a teaching tool.


I agree with that statement. This guy sounds like he has a bit of a screw loose with his training techniques. He sounds inhumane I would play hard ball back... It sounds like your in a bit of situation and he defintely has a huge ego problem. Giving him a bit of his own medicine won't be too bad for him.
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post #17 of 34 Old 07-16-2008, 11:35 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, so I'm moving Duke there Friday... I think because I can't ride him at the current barn they way he needs to... The round pen struggles majorly... It's on a hill AND it leans in... Duke was kind enough to hit my knee right on the fence when I asked him to canter and then decided that was a good way to bully me. Don't worry, i fixed that problem though :)

I'll be standing up to my trainer soon. *gulp* Pray that I'll have the courage to do it right!

Thanks for all you said!

lol, Iride, I knew you were kidding... kinda
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post #18 of 34 Old 07-17-2008, 09:58 AM
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You may want to have your mom there with you when you stand up to this guy. He may treat people like he treats horses. Stick to what you feel is right for you and Duke. Good luck and keep us posted.
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post #19 of 34 Old 07-17-2008, 10:22 AM
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definitely have your mum there when you talk to him. it always works better when there is an adult there for support. i dont have much to say. i wish you didnt have to move him there but you have to so i just hope it all works out for you :)

"I whisper but my horse doesnt listen...So I yell!!...He still doesnt listen"


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post #20 of 34 Old 07-17-2008, 04:06 PM Thread Starter
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Yeah, didn't think of that. Great Idea! That way he won't do anything stupid. I don't think he has all of his sense since the tornado hit... But for all I've done for him you think he'd actually be grateful, or something at the least....
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