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post #21 of 34 Old 07-18-2008, 11:44 PM
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I agree with you complelty (sp?). I do use a tie down on my horse, but it does not keep his head to his chest it just keeps him from his bad habit of tossing his head and breaking my jaw. Also when i got him he would not go right and every time we tried he would throw his head real high.
But to get him to flex right we never tied his head to his saddle, that is just horrible.
+ his tie down will be out of use in no time at all. It is a loose tie down and he does prove he can still use his head! I dont think you are thinking anything wrong, tell somebody. :)
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post #22 of 34 Old 07-18-2008, 11:51 PM
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No WAY! you love this horse and you have a right to be concerned
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post #23 of 34 Old 07-18-2008, 11:56 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all the support everyone!

Duke is going out to his place tomorrow. So he'll be there for less than a week. I'm hoping that the tin the trainer needs to repair his roof will be in so he will be too busy doing that and training the 5 horses their that he won't even think about riding Duke. As long as he doesn't work with him I think we will be okay.

I just REALLY need his round pen because the one at the current barn is a death trap IMO. And i have the pain to prove it!
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post #24 of 34 Old 07-19-2008, 12:54 AM
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No you not stupid or selfish, I think the trainer is acting like he the perfect and greatest trainer on earth which he not to me, he seem mean and too bossy.
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post #25 of 34 Old 07-19-2008, 06:51 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by Parker Horse Ranch
No you not stupid or selfish, I think the trainer is acting like he the perfect and greatest trainer on earth which he not to me, he seem mean and too bossy.

wow, you nailed it there....

well today, I kinda told him off in a way.... He acted like he was going to give me a "lesson" tomorrow on how to show Duke.... :roll: but then it turns out he wasn't going to be there, and he almost DIDN'T let me ride!!! ugh, i was upset, because I've been riding him by myself for a long time...

He said then "but what about his canter, I thought you said he had huge problems?!"

I said "I said, that his canter needed more work on the left lead because he didn't like to pick it up as well, but I worked on that and he's TONS better now and can even pick it up while going straight"

and he was speechless, so I said bye and left
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post #26 of 34 Old 07-19-2008, 09:03 PM
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YAY! I'm glad you stood up to him and that he was speechless! That'll make him think twice about messing with you now!

I hope your time goes smoothly there! And that you two do well at the show!
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post #27 of 34 Old 07-22-2008, 06:36 PM
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So how are things going?

Good for you for standing up to this guy, he sounds like a real.... I don't even know what to say. (insert adjective of your choice)
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post #28 of 34 Old 07-22-2008, 06:55 PM Thread Starter
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ok... well.... today wasn't great

We went to the arena... I guess he just decided, hey let's go to the arena!

But, I had to go into town anyway, so it didn't bother me. I had to go to the courthouse and do a bunch of things. Then he realized that the plates on his horse trailer were two months over due :roll: so I had to do that for him... so while i was doing that he was going to unload the horses. My mom went with me, and i told her "I bet you a million bucks that when we get there he'll be on duke"

What do you know, he was, and he already had the poor guy lathering with foam. It was like noon, why he wanted to go into the arena in the middle of the day when it's 100 out is beyond me!

I rode Duke this morning at like 9 and then he pretty much told me we were going to the arena, before I could do anything so Duke was ridden almost nonstop from 9-1.... He didn't eat breakfast before I rode ( I didn't think I would be riding him) and I have no idea the last time he drank. I tried to get him to drink before we trailered him, but he was being stubborn.

Anyway, when I was going to get on Duke, I noticed that the Throatlatch was like 5 holes tighter than it shoulda been!!! And the trainer was right there watching me like a hawk... So I said, I think his thoatlatch is too tight. he says "Why's that?" and I showed him how he couldn't flex his head w/o choking himself. Oh, I DID NOT like his attitude about that!

It's like he hated how I corrected him when he was obviously wrong! And then I asked where he put my crop (it was on my saddle, that he insisted that Duke wear while being hauled) And he got it for me, but bad mouthed how I used it, when "the reins work much better, but whatever"

Then he was teaching me how to navigate traffic. :roll: This consisted of him purposely running into me and cutting me off. Here are some of his catch phrases from today "You just screwed yourself!" <--- heard that one A LOT "Just GAUGE/Gowge (sp) him! He has to do what you want him to do!"

Also, He told me not to canter more than a lap, but then he made me canter like 5 laps straight more than once! And we went one direction for like 20 minutes and I asked to change directions because Duke needs more work going the other way since it's harder for him and he replied "I was JUST about to do that. I'm in charge here and YOU listen to ME!"

Yeah, I just about had it. So I gave Duke a bath after that. Mr. Trainer wasn't probably happy because he had to wait, but I didn't really care at this point. I felt so bad for Duke, and he's used to getting bathes everytime he is ridden by his mommy, so I figured he deserves to be taken care of like she would take care of him. The poor guy was literally raining sweat anyway....

Yup, that's my rant for today. Sorry if anyone thinks I'm being unfair, cruel or rude to my trainer. I've respected him for soo long, but he hasn't been himself and I'm sick of it..

oh, and the other day he told me "Just whack him as hard as you can in the face with your jockey stick!" he was talking about the mule who I had to ride by... that made me sooo mad! I would never do that! the most i did was kinda flick at him, but i didn't even touch him

ok, NOW my rant is over....
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post #29 of 34 Old 07-22-2008, 09:23 PM
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This "trainer" sounds awful. If I even STARTED to write what I thought about him, I would be banned from this board (am I allowed to even say that? )

You and Duke are troopers, I know you wouldn't be there if you didn't have to be. Do you have a post telling more about Duke? When I read your first post on this topic I realized I really missed the other one.

Keep up the good work!
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post #30 of 34 Old 07-22-2008, 09:33 PM
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Is Duke your horse? Is this guy working with Duke?

He does sound like an ol timer cowboy type - my gramps was one. There were many times they had to tie a horse up and lay them down for one reason or another.

There's a difference in doing it so no one is getting hurt though.

With what you have written, why would you even consider having your horse around the guy?!! Sounds like a bad thing.

And you can make your own creek!!

Dig a small ditch and flood it with a hose. Voila! Instant creek. It's what we use where I board for trail practice.
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