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        09-03-2008, 03:51 PM
    Thats too bad you are going to sell her. :(


    I'm sure you will find a great horse soon! (May I suggest a gelding this time?) lol

    Good luck!!!
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        09-03-2008, 07:59 PM
    Green Broke
    Thanks guys

    Intill someone offers on her or is willing to trade I will continue to work with her and who knows maybe something will change for the better.

    Ill keep you guys updated.
        09-04-2008, 01:51 AM
    Ohh, my friend is in the middle of a similar situation. She has a 7 yr old gelding that has no respect for her. He was rearing up with her riding him and invades your space, basically no respect at all. She lunged him for respect and he ran at her a couple of times. She changed his bit and uses spurs and that worked for a little while. But now he is open mouthed biting ( whereas before he was just nipping). This is her first horse and I really feel bad for her. Unfortunatly, she tried to assume dominance to late and now he is rearing with her again and she is scared to ride him at all. Once a horse loses respect for you it is really hard to get that back. I hope things get better for you.
        09-04-2008, 05:15 AM
    Hmmm...i don't see anything wrong with what your doing. I have a gelding with an attitude problem, if he goes to bite, or kick me, I will nudge him in the belly or if he gets me a will kick him back (only to defend myself, they learn quicker that way NOT to do it)

    But in your case keep the physical side to a minimum, she's only 5, if your to rough, she could turn scared of you. So keep praising her lots and over dramatically, when she does something right, because then she will soon think 'OMG so this is how she wants me to act!'

    Good luck, oh and about her jumping, maybe you should keep a whip on you, just in case she trys to stop, then a small tap behind your leg, will tell her that she MUST jump over it.

        09-04-2008, 04:26 PM
    Green Broke
    Never Never Never Never Kick your horse that can cause sooo many problems you don't even know!

    By you kicking her its showing her not that your boss that everytime your around her that your going to be mean and you don't want that! You want trust and your not going to get that if your kicking her if she reared...

    If she rears tell her loudly "NO and find another resolution to do but never pysical do something to do to them like that.
        09-04-2008, 04:29 PM
    Here's something to chew on...

    You said the last time she reared, you
    Last time when she reared I gave her a HARD kick in the side and she hasnt reared since
    Do you think there is a slight possibility that your kick, knocked something out of whack and that's why she is misbehaving even more? That that's why she threw you off and not listening and refusing jumps.

    Maybe whenever her saddle is on, it puts pressure on a certain point and when it gets too much for her to handle, she bolts (to try and get away from the pain) and then bucks?

    Since she is 5 and growing and putting weight/muscle on, have you had her saddle checked for a proper fit?

    Just some food for thought....
        09-04-2008, 04:39 PM
    If my horse acts up I squeel and kick him in the underside of the belly. Sorry if its OT but its what they do that in the wild and the are 576134654x stronger than we are. I don't have a probibilem with kicking your horse
        09-04-2008, 04:57 PM
    Green Broke
    Yeah but these are not wild horses theses are well broke horses and they shouldnt be treated that way there are so many better ways to can take that.
        09-04-2008, 05:03 PM
    If kicking horses are acceptable why did this jockey get banned for kicking his horse?

    Yes horses are stronger than people, its an obvious fact when you're dealing with a 1000 pound animal, but don't forget that they can feel a fly land on them so they are rather sensitive

    If a fly landing on them, can you imagine what a KICK feels like?!

    Kicking also isn't a good training technique. Yes horses will kick at another horse, but that's a kick from one 1000 pound animal to another 1000 pound animal, and its not a "I'm going to kill or hurt you kick" its a get away kick (like what dominant horses do to lower horses when they step out of line.. and even then the dominant horse gives the lower horse fair warning before the kick.)
    I find that this woman, Jessia Jahiel gives great advice.
        09-04-2008, 08:00 PM
    I have found that kicking works. Its better than beatting him more. Some people may say that its mean to do it. Some times they need to be put in their place. Im not aginst a stud chain or a crop or spurs but other people are. It is our own opinion, so please don't judge me for doing what I found works best for me

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