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    09-04-2008, 09:15 PM
I'm not judging you Erin, but I just find that it's harsh and that there are better ways out there to discipline a horse rather than kicking.

You can do whatever you want, but I'm just expressing my opinion.

I still don't see any situation that kicking a horse would be acceptable.
I have seen people kick a horse in its belly because it wouldn't stand still. I've seen someone kick a horse in its belly because he wouldn't move over. I feel that there are better ways to get what you want than kicking.

I do however, think, that if you put you leg up and the horse walked INTO it, is acceptable, because the human is not exerting any force, and the horse makes the mistake of walking into it.
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    09-04-2008, 09:19 PM
No its like if he is crowding me and wont quit. Or he keeps charging ahead of me, I will whack him. I like the act like you are going to kill the horse for 3 seconds then move on. I think its Clinton Anderson who does that
    09-04-2008, 09:21 PM
Green Broke
Not judging you but Its honestly not the right way to take things have your tired other ways other than kicking that might help im sure you could look around and find something?

We are just stating our opinions No need to think your being judged.
    09-04-2008, 09:24 PM
Have you tried to back him up when he's crowding you? To do jumping jacks?

When you say he's charging ahead of you.. do you mean when you're leading?
You could disengage his hindquarters....

I don't follow CA but I don't think he would go and kick a horse....

I've follow Parelli(sorta) and i've seen him "kick" at a horse, but it's not a hard "I'm going to kill you" kick.. its a "hey, you better quit that" soft type of kick....
    09-04-2008, 09:50 PM
I have tryed backing and circling. A stud chain and every inbetween
    09-04-2008, 10:04 PM
Green Broke
All I can say is keep working all it take is patience :)
    09-04-2008, 10:08 PM
Green Broke
When I said a hard kick I didnt mean hard enough to bruise her or anything it was just a good bump to make her notice it was bad. That's the worst thing I'VE ever done to chance. I've never slaped her hard. I always think before I do something. They have more sensative nerves then we do.

And no she misbehaves even when lunging. She knows im nervous around her she know im not big enough to handle her but im learning from my bo.
    09-04-2008, 10:10 PM
Green Broke
I don't want you to think im being mean or anything but yyou have had her for 7 months why are you nervous? That's the last thing you need to be around a horse cause they know it. Need to work her through her problems and don't give up :)
    09-05-2008, 06:13 AM
I'm fully against kicking... but am a bit of a hypocrite - I do smack if I'm pushed to the extremes. I try to make it more of a sound, than use force (cos once I misjudged the strength and ended up hurting myself more lol)... I DO feel guilty for it... my wee mare is an alpha... and a horrible toad when in a mood. I could be ten foot tall and she'd STILL attempt to hurt... she's vindictive, and used to do things like pinch the sensitive skin on your upper arm between her teeth. And she even double barrelled me once.
Is this because I'm inexperienced? No. She hasn't done these things in years, but she used to be HORRIBLE when in heat (both those times exampled were when she was in heat and she'd just turn on me). And she's the type of horse that just decides to squirt and fall in love and get all horny whenever it suits her.
I ended up persisting with her... not giving her an excuse, not showing her fear... because if you show her even a glimpse of nerves, she'd think it's Christmas... yes I'm making her out to sound horrible... but when she used to go in heat, all she wanted was to be left alone, and went stupid ways about getting it.
Three years on, she's completely different... okay she still has her movements... but she hasn't bitten me in years... and I can handle her with ease when in heat now. I don't agree with kicking. I used to go to a riding school where kicking and beating and everything was an acceptable part of horse care... needless to say I left.

I have a continuous knee injury so I end up on sticks now and then... but I can lead her no problem on them... I suggest you grab yourself a lunging whip... NOW, don't EVER hit a horse with it... I'm sure you know this though... but use it as an extension of your arm. Place it in front of Chance, if she rushes forward. Press it against her shoulder to push her away if she invades your personal space. Having an extension really helps me. Bailey is very respectful of the whip. I've not once hit her with it (people who do are really cruel in my mind) but she knows what that means.

There are other ways than force, and I've learnt that!
I hope you try to stick with her for a little bit longer, but if you're feeling unconfident, and close to being scared, I suggest you try looking for a horse that's much quieter for you.

    09-05-2008, 09:28 AM
Okay guys, lets give it a break now..
She gets it, we have given enough advice... I think it sounds like she is doing a good job, and maybe selling her will turn out for the best. :)

Good luck with your future horse.

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