am I making a mistake sending Major to a trainer?

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        06-12-2009, 11:58 AM
    am I making a mistake sending Major to a trainer?

    His issue is mounting. If the trainer gets him to where she can mount him while he's standing still...will that carry over to me being able to? What do you think?
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        06-12-2009, 12:49 PM
    The advice I always give in this situation is that I think you need to work WITH your trainer to solve this issue. See if you can come visit at least once a week (or more depending on distance and schedule) and work with the trainer with Major yourself; have them teach you what they are doing with him and why. The quick "here's your horse and he's fixed now this is what I did and what you need to do" as they hand him back is not enough, in my opinion, for you to maintain the expensive work you're paying to have done on him.

    Also, it's a good barometer test for your trainer: if they don't want you around for some reason, you may want to find a new one. They may give you back an even worse horse than you dropped off.
        06-12-2009, 01:08 PM
    I agree with Gypsy. Whenever you send a horse to the trainer you need to be there and learn along with the horse.
        06-12-2009, 05:40 PM
    Thank you very much Gypsy....that's great advice. Doing that would make me feel a whole lot better about the whole thing. I have a lot of anxiety about sending Major off with strangers and also about wether or not I will be able to get on him afterwards. I feel a lot better already.....thanks again!
        06-12-2009, 09:47 PM
    Green Broke
    Yeah, sending a horse off to a trainer is never the answer. Unless it's for some basic breaking out that you don't have time to do, you HAVE to be there for "issue" training, and really should. Even if it's just to check up, I know none of us like to hear it, but there have been issues with world renowned trainers abusing horses. Never ever ever listen to a trainer who tells you they "need alone time and to stay away". Any trainer worth his or her salt should WANT you there, so they can teach you along with the horse.

    Best of luck with him!
        06-12-2009, 10:04 PM
    Does he just walk away while you're trying to mount him? This IS something you can teach him at home using simple techniques. Let me know if you'd like some tips.
        06-13-2009, 01:02 AM
    Macabre- thanks. The girl really seems like she has good training techniques...but I do know that people can be very mean to horses while "training" them. I'm going to talk to her about me coming out and being a part of the training process before I let her take my horse. I would love to be a part of it as much as I can. I should be able to tell before very much time has passed if for some reason he was getting worse, right?
    I have just now got him where he trusts me on the ground. I would be devastated if someone did something to set him back. He has a lot of mistrust of people...especially men.
    Mom2pride- as soon as you pick up the stirrup he starts snorting and blowing in fear. It used to be that if you had a saddle on him you couldn't even walk to his side. He will at least allow you to do that now. But as soon as you put even the slightest bit of weight in the stirrup, he bolts off in fear. I have gotten on him before with two people holding him and making him feel like he can't get away...but that is just WRONG in my opinion. I don't want our relationship to be that way. He is even afraid of the dismount. That's why I think it's a problem I don't have the ability to fix. He isn't getting any better. Do you think I'm just being impatient?
        06-13-2009, 01:10 AM
    Awww...poor guy...I think you could do this yourself though ;) It will just take 'babysteps' and lots of desensitization exercises. If you do send him to the trainer, though, work with her, daily, if you can, so you know exactly what's going on; I would hate to hear that you wind up getting him back and he's worse, instead of better!
        06-13-2009, 02:00 AM
    My horse was can sometimes be very pushy so it can get dangerous for me and her what I did to calm the problem was lunge her then try to mount and if she moved lunged her again after doing that for a cupple weeks we where going some where but not realy she soon became very pushy a cupple of slaps when she was trying to push me while mounting cured the problem and know she no longer moves. Don't really know ur situation but a slap know and then wont hurt. I mean there 1,000 lbs and after all they probly can feel it but it doesn't hurt them its like a spanking. Just thought I would share my experiance with a horse thatd move when I mounted. Hope everything works out weather you use a trainer or do it yourself GOOD LUCK
        06-13-2009, 02:24 AM
    When I was going to send Justice to a trainers I visited several until I found one that I was very comfortable with and more than welcomed me to visit on a daily basis and be a big part of his training. If a trainer won't work with you on this and help you along with training your horse they aren't doing you any favors.
    I ended up not sending Justice to training after all due to a family crisis and then having an unexpected foal on the way but I will tell you this much, I see them on a regular basis and we visit their facilities frequently and watch them train. His wife also teaches lessons and my kids have gone to several, their philosophy on training is much like my own & WANT the owners to be very active in what is going on that way when the horse goes home if he/she starts to fall back you know exactly how to correct it before it becomes a major problem.

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