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post #11 of 39 Old 12-29-2010, 04:30 PM
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Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.
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post #12 of 39 Old 12-29-2010, 04:35 PM
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I agree with most of what MLS says. Don't baby the horse, just do it. I myself with Charm made the same mistake of babying her and basically doing nothing while I should have been doing something. Don't just stand there by him, make HIM do something. Show him you are the leader and that he needs to trust you!

What I would be doing is bringing him into a round pen or closed arena of some sort and making him move his feet. I would reccomend doing something like join-up if you have ever heard of it. Or just make him move when you ask him to and eventually stop when you ask. He will learn that it is better to be beside you then away from you because he will have to work!

Worry about brushing him until after he chooses to stand by you on his own terms.

Otherwise do everything that mls says

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Thank you Ray, that was what I was trying to say. Sorry, I'm new to this. I was hoping for multiple suggestions to consider to see which one might work. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone. Thanks again.
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Sheza - Your suggestion is more along the lines of what I was thinking. We have a round pen, which I worked him in a few times, but right now its covered with ice and snow and thought it may be dangerous there until it melts. In the meantime I wanted to work on being able to brush him without him acting like I may beat him or something. I don't want to just stand around doing nothing and there is not much else to do on snow/ice.
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post #15 of 39 Old 12-29-2010, 04:49 PM Thread Starter
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As a side note - He seems to know manners as far as staying out of my space, following, stopping, turning when I turn, etc. He also knows round pen lunging: canter/trot/walk, all on cue. He seems to 'want' to interact, but cannot seem to overcome his fear of people. He stays connected to me, but we just cannot get near enough to pet/touch/brush him.
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post #16 of 39 Old 12-29-2010, 06:07 PM
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He probably will not "want to be with you" until long after he learns to trust you with the things you ask him to do. So, the advice from MLS will help him learn to tolerate and trust you. Just like one of the other posters said that their horses are sensitive to sudden actions, etc., one of my horses does not "want to be with me" unless it's feeding time, and then he doesn't like to be touched. He tolerates it, because he has manners, but he does not crave human contact. I've had him for 30 years, since he was 11 months old. So, don't beat yourself up if your horse is like that, too. He may never be a pocket pony, but if he turns into one, it will be after the trust and respect is there.
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post #17 of 39 Old 12-29-2010, 07:58 PM
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I am sure that the advice given by MLS is sound, but you have plenty of time to go there. I , for one, think you are doing a very good job and there is nothing wrong with doing the first things very slowly. Are you in a hurry?
The weather is bad and now is as good a time as any for the two of you to just explore each other, no demands, no expectations.
After awhile, you can go back to the halter and try again, but I see nothing wrong at all with doing just as you are doing. I commend you.
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post #18 of 39 Old 12-29-2010, 08:31 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you tinyliny!!! No, I am in noooo hurry whatsoever. In fact, I have more time than I know what to do with. I've been sitting here thinking of a better way to ask questions. Perhaps I should be asking what 'NOT' to do. I guess I'm just curious what to expect from him given his past, although I dont really have any expectations. My first reaction was to prevent him from being slaughtered. Now I would like for him to have a good life free from people who would hurt him. I understand and accept I may never be able to ride him, although I do believe this horse can be rehabilitated and learn to trust again. I plan on doing more round pen training in the spring after the snow and ice are gone, but in the meantime I want to do more than just look at him in the barn. After my last post this afternoon I went out to him again, with the brush, and after about 40 min he allowed me to brush his neck, shoulder, and belly on his left side, and then touch him with the brush on his right side!!!!! WOOOOHOOOOO! I am very excited about that. Any little improvement is a major milestone for me. Now I'm thinking his rehab therapy is going to do for me than him!!!!! At least we have somewhere to start now - yay! :)
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post #19 of 39 Old 12-29-2010, 08:52 PM
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Darla, it sounds like you are doing a great job! I think what MLS was telling you will work later when your horse doesn't think you are going to eat him! The basic idea is sound though. take it slow and you guys will be a great team!

When my horse was afraid of cars going by, I was told not to talk softly but just keep his feet moving. It worked wonders and now he is more comfortable with cars than I am!
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post #20 of 39 Old 12-29-2010, 09:01 PM
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I too, would like to commend you Darla! I can't offer much advice on working with an abused horse, but I want to say that it is so wonderful that there's people like you out there. I agree with the people that have advised you to take your time with him, but also show him that you are a leader. He'll soon learn you are a human to be trusted. As much as we wish our horses could read our minds, our hearts, and accept the type of love we love to shower them with, some horses don't like hugs, or being groomed for an hour. My first horse that was with me for a very long time(17 years) never came to me when called or liked being brushed but he took good care of me on the trail. My new horse (of only 4 weeks) however will walk away from hay to come greet me at the gate, whether I have a treat or the halter in my hand.

You're on the right track. No two people are the same and no two horses are the same! You both will figure it out. Good luck to you and be safe!
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