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post #11 of 21 Old 09-15-2010, 11:13 PM
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I know exactly what you mean. A lot of young trainers don't even know what those sorts of things mean. I know what they are, and I know how to tell if a horse isn't round, collected, on the aids, etc. I'm still in the process of learning exactly how to teach a horse to get that way (which is why I don't offer people to train their horse to do these things). I've never taken consistent formal lessons (I've literally had two formal lessons my whole life, and they were four years apart from each other and completely different) but I have observed professional trainers and riders and learned that way.
Oh, I didn't mean you at all. In fact one young trainer I took lesson with was very good (but she charged too much because she was using someone's else facility where you have to pay ship-in fee so I quit). But as you said yourself we have LOTS of young (and not so young ) "trainers" around who can definitely ride (and very well sometime), but just can't teach because they don't see what's the student does wrong (my usual problem - I do lots of thing wrong). If you can (and I believe one should have a talent to be a good teacher) then absolutely go for that, just keep improving your skills on way.
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post #12 of 21 Old 09-15-2010, 11:57 PM
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it depends on the person.. but the older you are the more experience you have.. you can't possibly be as wise as the older more advanced trainers - just keep that in mind. No amount of knowledge can really change that. Keep going for it, but keep in mind being a younger trainer will keep you from being capable of training students older and more experienced. In the future you'll gain more and more respect and a name for yourself. But at a young age, I personally wouldn't train with someone my age. I'd figure why pay someone to train me when I can have my friends do about the same. No offense intended.. this all applies for me as well as everyone else our age.

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post #13 of 21 Old 09-16-2010, 12:18 AM Thread Starter
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I try to always set the foundation through groundwork so that my never-before-ridden horses just won't buck at all, even during their first ride... so naturally, I have not had a lot of practiced being bucked around. If a buck catches me by surprise (I am not paying attention and I don't feel them rounding up to kick) I can be unseated pretty quickly. I always get right back on, though, and I am never fearful or nervous around any kind of horse (even if I know it's a bucker). Not sure if you know what I'm getting at... I'm a good rider, I have a good seat, but I am not sure of my abilities when it comes to a frantically bucking horse. Does that make sense?

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post #14 of 21 Old 09-16-2010, 12:21 AM
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post a video ?

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post #15 of 21 Old 09-16-2010, 12:31 PM
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It's okay, there are a lot of good trainers out there that can't ride a buck (or don't want to). I am like you, I do what I have to do to hopefully prevent the horse from bucking and I have a couple of tricks that will generally keep them from bucking very hard or for very long; however, you will occasionally find a horse that will go ahead and take his head away from you and buck until he either wears himself out or bucks you off. I am not a bronc rider, I know that but I am still a successful trainer. There are lots of other folks out there that train that are willing to ride a horse that will go rodeo bronc, or flip over on you, or in general try to really hurt you. There are too many folks out there with good horses that need trained for me to risk getting hurt messing with a horse I know I can't ride from day 1.

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post #16 of 21 Old 09-16-2010, 12:53 PM
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Let your results be your business card. Word of mouth will be your best friend in the training industry. Horsey people hang out with other horsey people. If you do a good job for one the will refer you to others. One of the best horsewomen I know is only 14. You can do anything you want too in life and the earlier you start out the farther you can go - NEVER give up on your dreams!
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post #17 of 21 Old 09-16-2010, 01:40 PM
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No, I don't think it's too young, but it really depends on that particular person.

My current trainer is 23 turned professional at the age of 18. However, she only recently started her own, boarding and training facility until then she worked with an already established trainer (her old trainer) to help build her reputation and pick up techniques.

Another example is Chad Keenum, because of your location (and I'm not sure of your discipline) I'm not sure of you know him. He's a fairly big training/horse dealing/catch rider her in the MD/VA area. He's also in his early 20's and has a fairly good reputation (although, that really depends on who you talk to). He started his own business as a 19/20 year old as well.

Yes, it's hard to establish yourself as a young trainer, but it's very possible. If you truly are skilled enough catch riding/practice is an excellent way to get your name out there and build a reputation and find future clients (also ease their nervousness about your age)
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post #18 of 21 Old 09-16-2010, 01:45 PM
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I think there is a difference between a trainer and an instructor. To me, from what you've said, it sounds like you are probably a great intermediate/beginner level instructor and at this point a "starter trainer" rather than a "polishing or finishing trainer".

To me, it sounds like at your age, you are off to a great start to a career in horses. Stay honost, with yourself and your clients. People will love that and you will build a great reputation.

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post #19 of 21 Old 09-16-2010, 07:10 PM
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I can ride a buck, but prefer not to...haha. I am like Smrobs, I do all the groundwork well enough that when I get on, usually a horse doesn't even attempt to buck or bolt.

I don't think you are too young at all; I was training horses for my family and friends before you started riding. I don't train 'professionally' so to speak, but never balk at a chance at working with another horse, I have taught people how to ride, and have helped others struggle through different issues that were hindering both horse and rider, and if I had the facilities I would jump at the chance to take in some young or problem horses.

Just continue learning, attend clinics, etc...and be honest to your clients about your experience, and choose your horses wisely; don't take any horse on that you don't feel you can help, just because the owner is desperate...you have a long time to live and learn, so save the 'difficult' ones for when you've had a chance to really refine your methods. I know of trainers who won't take on known 'bronc' type horses, but I don't mind working with those (my current mare was one of those), but I understand enough about the nature of horses TO take those on...not that the other trainers that don't take 'em don't, but I think it really does take a special type of person to retrain horses with a past history that is less than ideal.

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post #20 of 21 Old 09-18-2010, 02:12 PM Thread Starter
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I will try to get a video up. I've got one filly breaking out now and another gelding that's coming in a couple of weeks. I just need to get someone to tape it, haha. What would you want to see?

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