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post #31 of 34 Old 06-21-2012, 05:21 PM
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Quick update on my situation - today when I got there Kid was the only gelding anywhere in sight so he was no problem. I had to go out into the field to get Angel who was actually out in the field grazing (first time I have seen her not standing at the fence hollering for Kid) with the other mares. Everyone stayed put until I had the lead on Angel and started walking to the gate, then they started coming up behind us and she started getting antsy. I turned her around and we went straight towards them with me waving the lunge whip at them. They scattered but she got upset too. It took a couple of rounds of us shooing them, me calming her down, starting towards the gate, turning around to shoo them, etc before they gave up & went back to grazing and we were able to leave the field unmolested. Progress!
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post #32 of 34 Old 06-21-2012, 05:29 PM
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One day earlier this Spring, I walked out into the pasture to catch Sam grazing near the rest of the herd. I caught him fine, but when we started back a yearling darted into us, the whole herd got into the frackas and Sam was being wisked away in the middle of the herd wearing his halter with his lead rope dangling on the ground.

I FINALLY caught him. I was so mad.

The next day I took a lunge whip out with me. I COULD NOT CATCH SAM. He ran from me completely.

The barn owner had a good laugh at my expense. Saw me walking with the lunge whip and decided to see what happened. Well, what happened is my own horse decided to bugger off.

I don't take a whip or stick with me now. But, I have learned to walk with eyes behind my head and wave my arms if anyone gets too close.

I have not had another repeat of the events of that fateful day, but it surely taught me to pay attention.
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post #33 of 34 Old 06-22-2012, 10:13 AM Thread Starter
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You don't think it'll leave a mark? I'm pretty sure that what that is, is a bull whip. They just call it 'stock whip' in Australia. I've seen the pickup men at the rodeo use these things to drive back a bull that is really out for blood and is less apt to back off than a horse is. What I see is that the guy was being very ineffective at first with the hand-flapping and annoying the colt to the point where he really was about to get kicked. I have noticed that often times trainers will do something like that, which they know is ineffective and will annoy the horse and cause a response to support and justify the thing that they're about to do next. I'm only saying this because I've done things just like this and given the same justifications. I can tell you from my own experience that the effect it has is to make the horse fear and distrust the human being and creates a situation that has to be fixed before normal training can resume. All I'm saying is that it is possible to bypass this and get the horse's respect without wailing the sh*t out of him and making him afraid. The only catch is, you have to be fearless and remain cool no matter what his response is. Most people cannot handle that.
Ian, I think if you read my post you will see that I said the LUNGE whip won't even leave a mark. I wasn't referring to a stock whip. I can control my actions (not his) and I have no intention of striking this horse unless I absolutely have to. All I'm going to do is snap that lunge whip and get him to move. He does NOT respond to twirling leadropes, arm waving or anything else. I don't want him up around the gate when I'm there with my horses and I don't want to be anywhere in range of his feet if he does his usual swerve and kick out routine. In fact, the more I think about it, the less concerned I am about whether or not his owner would approve.
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post #34 of 34 Old 06-22-2012, 10:44 AM
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I agree hag nag. Longer whip is the word. Ive. Yet to even snap a horse with it. I would if I had to and avoid being kicked or knocked down. This same gate bully of ours kicked me and a horse thru. A mercifully open gate. Not any more. He sees the whip and respects our space
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