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        11-12-2012, 09:56 PM
      #11
    Foal
    You can use a lunge whip to free lunge or you can just use a lead rope or something similar. It depends on how sensitive the horse is. My old TB mare was very whip shy when I got her, so I never even use a lead rope. I just cluck to her and she moves out nicely. A pony I'm training is so desensitized to whips and things that I have to "chase" at her hind end to get her moving.
         
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        11-12-2012, 10:54 PM
      #12
    Foal
    The horse has disrespect for you. Body language and being right in front of the drive line is VERY important here.

    Every time you ask the horse to speed up, you need to be clear in what your asking. Make sure he is familiar with kissing, or smacking the whip on the ground and in some times even being popped on the butt with the lunge whip.

    If your horse is is stopping and turning away because he knows your going to smack his but use this as an advantage with him. Step to the side, kinda right across from the beginning of his shoulder. Lift the lounge line with your left hand(or which ever direction your wanting him to) and ask him to go with a click, if he continues to stand and balk at you. Smack the whip in the ground 3 times, still holding your hand high with the lead rope indicating which way you want him to go.

    So it in this motion if he doesn't go with just plane asking smack the whip on the ground in a rounding motion and go "One...Two...Three.". If he continues to balk pop him in the shoulder. Do it in another 1 2 3 motion. Every 3rd pop start getting harder and harder. This urges him to move his shoulder forward and when he moves his shoulder forward the back in will follow.

    You need to watch for when the horse is getting ready to slow or stop. As SOON as you get even a tiny HINT of him getting ready to stop get on to him for it. Smack his rear end with the whip. The longer you do this and get onto him right before he stops he'll start to think "Maybe she isn't playing around. Maybe I should keep going.".
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        11-12-2012, 11:08 PM
      #13
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    Originally Posted by Baylen Jaxs    
    The horse has disrespect for you. Body language and being right in front of the drive line is VERY important here.

    Every time you ask the horse to speed up, you need to be clear in what your asking. Make sure he is familiar with kissing, or smacking the whip on the ground and in some times even being popped on the butt with the lunge whip.

    If your horse is is stopping and turning away because he knows your going to smack his but use this as an advantage with him. Step to the side, kinda right across from the beginning of his shoulder. Lift the lounge line with your left hand(or which ever direction your wanting him to) and ask him to go with a click, if he continues to stand and balk at you. Smack the whip in the ground 3 times, still holding your hand high with the lead rope indicating which way you want him to go.

    So it in this motion if he doesn't go with just plane asking smack the whip on the ground in a rounding motion and go "One...Two...Three.". If he continues to balk pop him in the shoulder. Do it in another 1 2 3 motion. Every 3rd pop start getting harder and harder. This urges him to move his shoulder forward and when he moves his shoulder forward the back in will follow.

    You need to watch for when the horse is getting ready to slow or stop. As SOON as you get even a tiny HINT of him getting ready to stop get on to him for it. Smack his rear end with the whip. The longer you do this and get onto him right before he stops he'll start to think "Maybe she isn't playing around. Maybe I should keep going.".
    This is good advice......essentially since your new to this, it is called 'get after him!'
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        11-12-2012, 11:11 PM
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    This is good advice......essentially since your new to this, it is called 'get after him!'
    Lol, I try my best to soak up anything I can about training a horse. I also watch a lot of Clinton Anderson stuff... He may not be for everyone. But with any horse I have worked with, with a few of his methods. They respond really well.
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        11-12-2012, 11:21 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Yeah, it sounds like you are giving the horse mixed messages. I wouldn’t assume straight away that it’s disrespecting you, it could be, but if you are asking for one thing with the whip, and another with your body language, or whatever, it can confuse the horse. This could lead to it getting frustrated, you getting frustrated and the horse disrespecting you since you are not getting what you are asking for and letting the horse lead the way.
    I’m not sure how you are lunging it, probably how I have seen people doing it around the place, but in terms of how I lunge horses, if I pointed the whip (I don’t use one but you know what I mean) at its rear end, stop and face me is exactly what I want them to do. I do that in conjunction with a signal from my other hand, which is what I eventually want them following, not the whip, or in my case the other end of the lead rope. If I want the horse to go around me I apply the stimulus to the horse between its shoulder and its ear.
    The important thing is though that the stimulus is the second part of the equation, not the first. The way I actually tell the horse “go that way”, (the first part of the equation) is with my hand holding the lead rope. If they don’t want to go off that (and none of them do at first, they need to learn) I up the pressure incrementally till I get what I want; as soon as the horse gives me what I want I leave them alone and stop bothering them. At first, one step in the right direction is enough, then two, then three, and so on till they are loping around me in a circle. If I want them to stop, I give them the “stop signal”, if they don’t follow that, they then get the stimulus to stop (applied between their hip bone and tail) from the tail end of the lead rope- until they stop; once they stop they get left alone.
    Now I’m not saying what I do is better that others, of that its right and they are wrong; all of that is beside the point, you could train a horse to lunge with a tea cup and a banana if you wanted to. So don’t go trying to copy how I just described how I do it, you will likely confuse the horse more. What I am saying is look for and give the horse consistency, have a look to see if you are giving the horse clear direction before needing to resort to the whip. Or are you saying stop with your body etc while you are saying go with the whip.
         

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