True I've been trying to graduate one of my geldings from a snaffel and i've been looking for something to suit him. I think I'll get one if these it has what I was looking for. I'm trying to learn more about bits. I use hackamores on most of my horses so my bit knowlegde is sometimes lacking. I can tell if they don't suit my needs though and I can tell how harsh they are and about how much leverge they'll apply. I like to get user opinions on bits before I buy. Last think I wanna do is make my horses hard mouthed or hurt thier mouth.
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