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        05-30-2010, 09:51 PM
    I totally agree katy, I'm sure I've tried that "back up" manoeuver and its not the greatest idea and I'm sure he'd pull a 180. Unfortunately, I won't be sending him anywhere, I simply can't afford it, and I feel since "professional" trainers were the first to break him for the track before I bought him and could not fix his issues, there isn't much of a point trying with someone else. I admit I haven't spent enough time working with him over the last few yrs, so I'm going to adhere to a more regular work schedual. I agree with the last replier that I should keep him by himself for awhile, be more assertive with him (I tended to let him get away with more than I should have ) and asking for a little less at a time. If this doesn't work after a year, it might be time that I know my limits. Again thanks for everyone's advice, wish us luck!
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        05-30-2010, 10:47 PM
    (The last repliers name is Jhin. =P Nice to meet you.)

    If you're still having trouble in a year, and I'm not in school/am free to travel, gimme a shout.

    Sometimes racetrack trainers are very harsh with the horses. There was a story I was reading or watching, something, (Monty Roberts I think) who had a very aggressive horse to deal with because the grooms and handlers were very abusive of it so he didn't trust riders on the ground... so he had to train the horse on the back of another horse and work his way down to the ground.
        05-30-2010, 10:51 PM
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    Hey Smattles, I have a horse in training at the moment with very similar issues. She will stop dead in her tracks, almost as if she has forgotten how to go forwards at all. After trying to be as persuasive as I could with heels and crop (and I can be VERY persuasive), I realized I was doing nothing more than setting the scene for a battlefield as her behaviour escalated to rearing and spinning, at one point nearly taking both of us over the side of the arena fence.

    Some horses can be encouraged forwards with slightly more 'aggressive' riding tactics, others do not respond and not even the biggest whip in the world will get them to move forwards. It sounds like you have a horse that falls into the latter category, as do I.

    I found that jumping off (when she eventually stood calmly) and putting her on the lunge line helped her to remember how to move forwards without the associated battle. Once she was moving forwards comfortably and calmly in all paces, I hopped back on. She stopped dead again within 6 strides. I hopped off and repeated the lunging routine. This time I got back on and she moved off calmly, like nothing had ever happened and worked well for the rest of the ride.

    Normally I wouldn't advocate solving a riding issue by getting off and lunging however with a horse that really won't move forwards I find it is an effective technique that avoids an outright battle. If at all possible it is good to avoid battlescenes with horses as the battle itself is counter productive to most training regimes.

    P.S. "Backing up" is not only dangerous, it also is the wrong way to go about training such a horse. The problem is they won't move forwards, therefore moving backwards is not a desireable option as it will never teach them to move forwards when their feet get "stuck".
        05-30-2010, 11:13 PM
    Thx Sarahver, I will most definitely try that idea, great advice! Sorry Jhinn, when I was replying, it put me in a different window so I didn't have your name available to me at the time, which is why I wrote "last replier",lol, thanks again guys, I'm actually sick with pneumonia right now so just waiting to get better to start on my horse again. I'll be having everyone's wonderful advice in mind when I get back on him again. This is the first time I've ever posted anything on a forum about training before and I am SO happy and impressed with everyone's helpful advice ! THANKS SO MUCH TO ALL OF YOU! :)
        05-30-2010, 11:18 PM
    Hahaha. It's not a problem. ;] I suspected that's what happened, I just had to bug ya.

    Hope you feel better soon!

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