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        04-25-2011, 05:02 PM
    Question Any suggestions for the round pen?

    Okay so as they say my 4 year old gelding and I have a green-on-green relationship. Work on a lead rope is good, he moves away from pressure and he will let me do almost anything to him. He will let me pick up his hooves but not long enough to be picked out yet. He's already accepted a bit and bridle, saddle and girth, weight on his back and some work with bomb proofing. We have worked a bit on lungeing and in a round pen. As soon as I put more pressure on him with the lead rope he will trot half a lap and stop and face the rail so I would throw the end of the rope at his butt or throw a glove at it to get him to move forward. This worked for a while, but then he decided to try to push at the gate or jump out of the pen so I moved him to the large round pen that he could not hurt himself. After that he would stand at the gate and try to break through it. Anytime I could get him to move he would move away and come right back to the gate. He is never tried to bite me or charge my space, but when I insist on moving he threatens to kick. I am really hoping to get him to see the round pen as a good space and not asylum. I have no ideas of continuing his backing until we have a mutual understanding on the ground and he can respect me. Any suggestions you have would be greatly appreciated!
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        04-25-2011, 09:46 PM
    A common problem in green horses. They have no idea what you want from them in there! There are two scenarios here though, if he is truly afraid of being in there put a little hay or a few treats in the middle. I used to let my gelding 'weed' the round pen before we started working. (it was newly placed with little footing and lots of green).

    The second idea is that he really just doesn't have any idea what you want him to do there. This is common especially green-on-green (my case as well). The biggest thing I learned was how important my body language is, and I also bought a lunge whip. Most videos told me to put pressure on his shoulder, but that just turned him into me. So I worked with it and realized that I needed to focus my pressure almost behind him and it worked!

    Basically you have to find out what works for your horse. Maybe have a friend who has lunged before some out and watch you, or have them try it and see how it works. When round penning two things are so important, relationship and body language. Relationship takes time, but body language will help with that.
        04-25-2011, 10:09 PM
    Thanks Ill have to work some more on that :) Not quite sure... could be fear though he doesnt display it until he feels pressure which might be it. Thanks for the advice!
        04-25-2011, 10:39 PM
    Keeping his feet moving will eventually tell him he will be fine. Just like sacking him out to anything else it's going to take some time. Be patient and you will be fine.
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        04-25-2011, 11:03 PM
    Are you free lungeing him or is he on a line?
        04-26-2011, 01:50 AM
    MHFoundation: Both, on a line he is hard to keep moving. I think he spends more time backing away than moving forward.

    Momo3boys: Patience is a virtue I am coming to appreciate the more time I spend with him :)

    Thanks for all the suggestions guys!

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