Cowchick. I totally agree. I don't care for clinician trainers at all. Although I just like Jeff Sanders in the way he handles himself on a horse. He's alright. There are some that make me wonder. But these days, all these hobby horse owners want clinician trainers now.. I've got the "oh your just a two-bit cow puncher, what do you know about training horses?" quite a few times. Seems these days in the eye of the equine industry, if you not a clinician, you don't know sh!t. Lol. But anyways, sorry for hijacking this thread, I ran onto an ad in the Rocky Mountain Rider today on a guy named Ty Heth. I've heard from him before, but never really looked into him much. I don't know if I really like his hands at all, just by judging the pictures, but wanted to know if anybody had heard much about him, since we are on clinician trainers. Haha taps in the summer,it cracks me up every time I see someone. I personally hate taps, no matter the weather..