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    02-20-2013, 11:47 AM
... As far as the headset goes, there is a reason why he spends time on it. And it has nothing to do with show. But it has everything to do with making a true California Bridle Horse.
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    02-20-2013, 11:49 AM
Toymanator, where has worked at?
    02-20-2013, 11:50 AM
I'm afraid some people just don't understand the work that goes into that headset..
    02-20-2013, 12:08 PM
Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
Toymanator, where has worked at?
I don't understand your question.

Originally Posted by Wanstrom Horses    
I'm afraid some people just don't understand the work that goes into that headset..
This is very true, it isn't a forced position like a lot of snaffle bit trainers these days. That headset is a development from a lot of riding in a proper balance. The true bridle horse is an exceptional athlete and has a different posture than other horses. Think of how a ballerina or someone who practices high levels of martial arts carries themselves as they walk around. They have great posture, balance, and move freely. This is very similar to what occurs in a true bridle horse, but it takes hours of development to get to that point. Everyone has a different level of understanding of what a "good horse" is. My level of horse increases with each horse I ride and my expectation of what a good horse is, gets deeper and deeper each year. But I also understand that the horses I enjoy, are not going to be the same as everyone else.
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    02-20-2013, 12:19 PM
I meant, where has he worked at?
You said that you were friends with him and his website says he has worked on some ranches, thought maybe you knew.
    02-20-2013, 07:36 PM
Well, I have stewed on this one all day, and I can't take it no more....sorry Fort Fireman I am going to derail your thread.

Doing clinics in Europe doesn't mean sh!t to me. When your handy with a horse and rope, put on a clinic in Winnemucca and see how many guys show up. And I don't mean town guys, I am talking good hands. That would be a sure tell if you have something to offer and not just talking out your ass. Unfortunately a pile of clinicians have found that wearing a wool vest, silk rag and flat hat riding a wade with tapaderos(in the summer) somehow makes you handy and desirable to the clinician followers. Anymore the real good guys I know of refuse to wear the "costume" just for that reason.

I am really getting burned out on clinicians, I tried to get on the band wagon, but I fell off.
What happened to the days if you wanted to learn about cowboying/bridle horses(or whatever you wanted to learn) you went and got a job doing it!
If you want it bad enough, you'll work for it. But now all you have to do is watch YouTube and pay some wash-out that didn't make a season on some outfit to teach you.
    02-20-2013, 08:21 PM
Originally Posted by Wanstrom Horses    
I'm afraid some people just don't understand the work that goes into that headset..
Nope. They sure don't.
    02-20-2013, 08:56 PM
Cowchick. I totally agree. I don't care for clinician trainers at all. Although I just like Jeff Sanders in the way he handles himself on a horse. He's alright. There are some that make me wonder. But these days, all these hobby horse owners want clinician trainers now.. I've got the "oh your just a two-bit cow puncher, what do you know about training horses?" quite a few times. Seems these days in the eye of the equine industry, if you not a clinician, you don't know sh!t. Lol. But anyways, sorry for hijacking this thread, I ran onto an ad in the Rocky Mountain Rider today on a guy named Ty Heth. I've heard from him before, but never really looked into him much. I don't know if I really like his hands at all, just by judging the pictures, but wanted to know if anybody had heard much about him, since we are on clinician trainers. Haha taps in the summer,it cracks me up every time I see someone. I personally hate taps, no matter the weather..
    02-20-2013, 08:58 PM
Oh, here's his web page:
Ty Heth Horsemanship
    02-20-2013, 09:59 PM
I've never heard of that guy (Heth), but, heck, there are clinicians jumping out from behind every tack shed these days.

On taps: I know a lady in Alberta who grew up ranching in the southwest U.S. They had a reason for taps. She just kept using them until they got so darn popular. Then she took them off.

I had a friend give me a pair of ugly old bulldog type taps with wool (real wool) lining. They are wonderful for winter riding, but since my winter rides are relatively short I left them at my home place for the hired guy. He puts in a lot longer days out in the winter than I do, and thinks they're why he still has 9 toes (so he says).

I guess the bottom line for me on clinicians needs to be: If they're getting people off the couch, outside, and doing something with their horse, that's better than nothing. And I should say that about everyone of them from Parelli to Richard Caldwell.

I gotta agree with la Chica de Ganado, tho. The best way to learn is to have your paycheck depend on it.

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