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    08-29-2011, 03:14 PM
  #71
Trained
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Originally Posted by Oxer    
I have a question that's kinda' on the topic here... I was kicked in the chest by a trainers horse. She told me he was claustrophobic. I had to go to the hospital and have fluid drawn out of my chest cavity. Is this a true statement?? Can horses really be "claustrophobic" when a human is in their space and yet they are in an entirely open area!???
Horses can be and frequently are claustrophobic. However, that is NO excuse for this horse to have kicked you in the chest. If I were his owner, he'd have gotten "claustrophobic" alright.....because everywhere he moved he'd have run into my carrot stick. I would get another trainer, PRONTO!

I never, ever hit my horses. I DO let them "run into" my carrot stick or the lead line all the time. A horse swings her head at me.."Oh did you see that? She ran her face into the carrot stick.", swings her butt at me, "Look at that, ran her bootie right into that lead rope, amazing!". Can't possibly be abusing a horse when the horse is the one running into things.....T.I.C.!
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    08-29-2011, 04:00 PM
  #72
Weanling
It's ridiculous. Since every other person at my barn that leases/rides is under the age of 12, I get the worst looks when I discipline my horse. Or any horse really. I'm sorry, but if a 1200 pound animal decides he wants to take a snap out of me I'm not going to say "Bad horsey!" and proceed to do what I'm doing. I remember, so far the hardest I've ever disciplined Shannon was when she reared near me (she was tied up) because another horse was getting on her nerves. I untied her, pushed her around for a couple minutes, put her back and she hasn't even pinned an ear at said horse since. She did, however, give me the 'I'm so sorry' look the rest of the day.

Another time I was bathing a horse with a girl around 10. I love her but I feel she doesn't think horses should be smacked. The horse didn't kick or bite but was throwing his head and giving us the worst look. I gave him a little smack and he was perfect the rest of the bath. Probably didn't get respect from the 10 year old but I sure as heck got respect out of him.
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    08-29-2011, 06:12 PM
  #73
Green Broke
Can I join the horse beating club?

I will stand up and admit that several times I have had a someone else threaten report me for beating horses.

1) stan was out on a hack being a complete plonker, standing on his back legs in the middle of the road on a blind ben of a 60mph road. He was not listening to a **** thing I did with my legs or my hands, and ignored the light taps with the stick. So in order to avoid getting flattened by on coming traffic I upended my schooling stick and swung it at his backside. He Shot to the other side or the road like a bat out of hell and whilst it did leave a fairly enormous wheal I'd rather that then be under a truck. He never even thought about rearing ever again either. Complete stranger sitting in his car in a layby unfortunatly saw it and decided I was a horse abuser, started screaming and shouting and threatening to report me.

2) Pride once picked me up by my elbow and shook me, he did this in a fit of temper because I wouldnt release the hay I had and he wanted it. He got a fist to the nose for his troubles (and to get him to release me) and strangely hasnt bitten me again ever! I did however end up with a dislocated shoulder. Silly old hag next door came out and started berating me for hitting the beast despite me being in massive amounts of pain with a very obvious dislocation.

3) I was on a yard with a woman who was completly and utterly mad. I brought one of her horses in and It bit me, hard enough that I had to have stitches, I reacted instinctevely and slapped the horse accross the nose. She ranted and raved at me for distressing her poor little darling and "causeing vibrations to resonate up her nasal cavity". I turned round and had a go back, stating quite plainly that a smack to the nose does a lot less damage then a bullet which is what the horse would end up with if it ever bit a child as hard as it bit me. Also If it had been one of my horses it's head would have been ringing for a week and it would have sworn the world was ending but it certainly would never have even thought about biteing again.

Stupid woman had been admiring my horses manners for weeks, telling everyone how brilliant they were and how gentle, quiet and loving my ponies were. Well yes they are because they know thier place and are happy in it, Stan would give kisses and he would take polos from my mouth if offered them but he never ever got nippy or demanding. They know there are conciquences to thier actions but that I will never beat them for something they didnt do and they trust me and the people around them. All of mine have tried thier luck at some point or anouther and been reprimanded harshly for it, but my god they never try it again.
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    08-29-2011, 07:22 PM
  #74
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Katze    
Omg lol my german shepherd is EXACTLY like your pitbull! Seperation anxiety and all lol, it breaks my heart when I leave the house and I see her at the window howling up a storm lol.
I'm sorry but I hate hearing things like this. Do you think she is anxious because she is being left alone and is lonely without you? Um, I don't know if you realize this but it is completely the wrong way to read the situation. She is absolutely beside herself because her subordinate pack member, the one she is in charge of ie YOU is going out on your own. Lower members of a pack are quite happy to stay where they are put by their Alpha's, they will curl up and sleep until the leader comes back home. I am sorry to be a buzz kill but if your dog is acting up, whether it be, ceaseless barking, howling, or some dogs get very destructive in their fear and frustration, then you probably don't have the dynamic that you THINK you do with your dog. When your dog is howling like that it is deeply distressed because its "child" (you) has gone off without the leadership of it's Alpha - it is not a happy dog.

Sorry I just had to say something about that because I hate seeing and hearing about dogs with those kind of stress symptoms.
     
    08-29-2011, 08:22 PM
  #75
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by horseloverd2    
It's ridiculous. Since every other person at my barn that leases/rides is under the age of 12, I get the worst looks when I discipline my horse. Or any horse really. I'm sorry, but if a 1200 pound animal decides he wants to take a snap out of me I'm not going to say "Bad horsey!" and proceed to do what I'm doing. I remember, so far the hardest I've ever disciplined Shannon was when she reared near me (she was tied up) because another horse was getting on her nerves. I untied her, pushed her around for a couple minutes, put her back and she hasn't even pinned an ear at said horse since. She did, however, give me the 'I'm so sorry' look the rest of the day.

Another time I was bathing a horse with a girl around 10. I love her but I feel she doesn't think horses should be smacked. The horse didn't kick or bite but was throwing his head and giving us the worst look. I gave him a little smack and he was perfect the rest of the bath. Probably didn't get respect from the 10 year old but I sure as heck got respect out of him.
Would rather have the respect from the horse. The 10 year old will be 15 soon and not have respect for ANYONE at that point (tho they come 'round in time.. Heck even I did LOL)
     
    08-29-2011, 08:28 PM
  #76
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by kiwigirl    
I'm sorry but I hate hearing things like this. Do you think she is anxious because she is being left alone and is lonely without you? Um, I don't know if you realize this but it is completely the wrong way to read the situation. She is absolutely beside herself because her subordinate pack member, the one she is in charge of ie YOU is going out on your own. Lower members of a pack are quite happy to stay where they are put by their Alpha's, they will curl up and sleep until the leader comes back home. I am sorry to be a buzz kill but if your dog is acting up, whether it be, ceaseless barking, howling, or some dogs get very destructive in their fear and frustration, then you probably don't have the dynamic that you THINK you do with your dog. When your dog is howling like that it is deeply distressed because its "child" (you) has gone off without the leadership of it's Alpha - it is not a happy dog.

Sorry I just had to say something about that because I hate seeing and hearing about dogs with those kind of stress symptoms.
Not meaning any disrespect here OR wanting to take this OT but this is a very erroneous statement. Dogs are not wolves and do not have a linear pack structure with alpha and so forth. Nonlinear Dogs

Dogs with TRUE separation anxiety have mental illness and need medication AND a certified behaviorist and even then may not get better.
     
    08-29-2011, 11:13 PM
  #77
Weanling
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Originally Posted by kiwigirl    
I'm sorry but I hate hearing things like this. Do you think she is anxious because she is being left alone and is lonely without you? Um, I don't know if you realize this but it is completely the wrong way to read the situation. She is absolutely beside herself because her subordinate pack member, the one she is in charge of ie YOU is going out on your own. Lower members of a pack are quite happy to stay where they are put by their Alpha's, they will curl up and sleep until the leader comes back home. I am sorry to be a buzz kill but if your dog is acting up, whether it be, ceaseless barking, howling, or some dogs get very destructive in their fear and frustration, then you probably don't have the dynamic that you THINK you do with your dog. When your dog is howling like that it is deeply distressed because its "child" (you) has gone off without the leadership of it's Alpha - it is not a happy dog.

Sorry I just had to say something about that because I hate seeing and hearing about dogs with those kind of stress symptoms.
Ease up there darlin, my dog get's like that because when I raised her I was at home 24/7 until she was 3 yrs old, I did not work hubby made enough to support both of us and more, she is spoiled rotten and I am Top dog in my household, it's me the dog then my husband.

FYI she howls for all of 2 min, when my car is gone she stops. How do I know this? Because I give a **** about my dog and I worried that she REALLY did have mental problems/seperation anxiety. So I do not need you, someone whom I do not know, to tell me that my dog is ******ed and thinks she's alpha lmao. She is a totally spoiled baby and when momma leaves she bitches for a bit then curls up on her comfortable leather sofa with her 20 toys around her and goes to sleep until momma comes home and then the party is back on I.e walks, food, cookies and love. Trust me deeply distressed she is NOT.

Before you decide to have someone mind thier pet rearing manners, live at thier house for one day, re-read what you posted and think twice before clicking "Submit Reply". That is all.

Elana I just read your post, I did go see a certified behaviorist and I was told; "Your dog is spoiled rotten, there is absolutly nothing wrong with her besides that" and got billed lol.
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    08-30-2011, 12:07 AM
  #78
Weanling
I smack Desy when she's being pushy-pulley. If she yanks the reins out of my hand she gets a smack on the neck. I've definitely gotten some looks from the little kids, same when I'm in the barn, if she kicks at me while I'm picking her hooves, I'll get up and smack her on the butt and yell 'smarten up!'. It's funny when it echoes through the barn and you see the heads of the ponies in their stalls pick up and look at me.
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