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        06-07-2013, 10:41 AM
      #11
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    Unlike a thoroughbred or qh, most Arabians tend to have a very high head naturally, and as soon as they are alert, excited, upset, etc, their head goes sky high. This is my mare, who I do endurance with (not in endurance shape in these pics)

    Her at rest;


    What she can look like, if she stretches her neck down


    And what she always looks like, at a gallop;


    I honestly think trying to keep an arabs head in 'relaxed' position all the time is silly and unrealistic. If someone pulls on their mouth too hard? Head goes up. Something scares them? Excites them? They decide to argue with their rider? Head up. Its one thing to ask them to be in a frame while showing or doing some concentrated schooling, and I certainly think you should teach a horse to use its body most efficiently with a rider by riding back to front, but you also have to give them some leeway when it comes to breed traits.
         
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        06-07-2013, 11:04 AM
      #12
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by bsms    
    What are your goals in riding? How is your horse's balance and movement overall?
    Right now, I am riding for pleasure. Her movement and balance are OK. She is a very forward horse with alot of energy. On trail rides I have to hold her back constantly or she will be miles ahead of the other horses, even at a walk. I love her energy but if I don't have the running martingale on her, her nose is always in the air. If I give her too much rein, off she goes. I accept her for who she is and love her as she is. I just want her head down so I am not getting so frustrated. I am constantly working her with my seat & legs, trying not to get on her mouth too much.

    Thanks for all your advise. I will just keep working her. My other Arabian is the same, so I will be working double-duty and have the strongest legs in CA.
         
        06-07-2013, 11:04 AM
      #13
    Trained

    That is a natural headset of an Arabian.
    The gray in my avatar, also natural, but he is noticing something
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        06-07-2013, 11:12 AM
      #14
    Trained
    Extremely flashy and well trained Arabian Show Horse Gelding must see!

    I can't copy the pics, sorry.
    This horse has a very nice headset, except in pic 4 where he's behind the vertical.
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        06-07-2013, 11:15 AM
      #15
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi9O...e_gdata_player

    Totally artificial. Sorry, my honest opinion.
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        06-07-2013, 11:22 AM
      #16
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
    Extremely flashy and well trained Arabian Show Horse Gelding must see!

    I can't copy the pics, sorry.
    This horse has a very nice headset, except in pic 4 where he's behind the vertical.
    Cries in the corner, what a great price for a really nice looking boy, and I love how he looking there.
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        06-07-2013, 11:24 AM
      #17
    Foal
    Bluspark - She looks alot like my girl, Tie. Tie is 1/2 Arabian 1/2 Saddlebred and I don't know much about Saddlebreds. Here are a couple of pics of her in action at a poker playday from last year
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        06-07-2013, 11:41 AM
      #18
    Foal
    This is my other girl, Bella. 1/2 Arabian 1/2 Welsh.
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        06-07-2013, 11:43 AM
      #19
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by As You Wish    
    ...On trail rides I have to hold her back constantly or she will be miles ahead of the other horses, even at a walk. I love her energy but if I don't have the running martingale on her, her nose is always in the air. If I give her too much rein, off she goes...
    Just a suggestion, based on working with a sample size of ONE horse (Mia):

    I'd work on her stop, and then use stops instead of trying to constantly keep her back. Mia will also leave the other horses behind. Rather than fight to slow her down, I get a better attitude if we just get ahead some & then stop & wait. Or I'll turn her back and tell her we need to go get the slowpokes.

    I've converted Mia over to a curb bit. Again - if she wants to accelerate, we'll stop. Stop, dammit, I said! OK, that was from a few days ago! I used to try holding her in on a snaffle, but that just increased her tension. Now we're working on keeping slack in the reins and doing a full stop if needed, so she will learn to relax and carry her head in a relaxed position for her. Trying to reassure her thru the reins and keep her calm was just too darn much work for me! I'd get back exhausted.

    I recently tried a bit with copper rollers. The jury is still out, but it did seem to reduce her fussing and yanking on the bit - something she is entirely capable of doing with a curb bit, although it is easier to deal with in a curb. And she can prance if she wants, but I'll decide the ultimate speed by either stopping her or turning her back and forth.

    Since I'm searching for the right answer for Mia, I can't tell you one! All I can do is share what is going well or not going well, and sympathize. It is a challenge, but I honestly prefer all the work to a dead head horse strolling down the trail uninterested in anything going on.
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        06-07-2013, 11:45 AM
      #20
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    Cries in the corner, what a great price for a really nice looking boy, and I love how he looking there.
    That's the one I have my eyes in, hoping he's at least 14.3
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