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    06-11-2013, 07:02 PM
  #81
Weanling
Sorry about the second post. I forgot to add this in time. Lots of bending exercises at every gait will help with the giraffe head. Also, keep the horses attention engaged. Do lots of patters. Tear drops, half circles, moving in and out of a circle, serpentines, etc. Straight lines are your enemey! Lol :)
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    06-12-2013, 08:05 PM
  #82
Foal
I want to thank everyone for wonderful thoughts, tips and suggestions. The somewhat heated but healthy "discussions" on the subject were interesting and I have learned alot. I tried some of the techniques last night and by the end of our session she, Bella not Tie, was getting the hang of it. We have a lot of work to do but it will all be worth in in a few months, I can feel it.

Thanks Again everyone
     
    06-12-2013, 08:09 PM
  #83
Foal
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Originally Posted by Bagheera    
Sorry about the second post. I forgot to add this in time. Lots of bending exercises at every gait will help with the giraffe head. Also, keep the horses attention engaged. Do lots of patters. Tear drops, half circles, moving in and out of a circle, serpentines, etc. Straight lines are your enemey! Lol :)
Last night we circled, and circled and circled, did figure 8's, several patterns, everything I could think of and it really helped. She started moving better at the end of our session. Thanks for the advice.
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    06-12-2013, 11:17 PM
  #84
Trained
Circles, smaller, bigger, lots of changing hands, serpentines, shoulder in's going in and coming out of turns in the corners, leg yields, all that nice stuff where she never knows what will come next and starts concentrating on your aids
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    06-13-2013, 01:05 AM
  #85
Weanling
I'm glad it helped! I would also invest in some books about basic dressage exercises or even reining exercises. Both disciplines have excellent books on riding exercises that you should find useful. :)
     
    06-13-2013, 06:36 PM
  #86
Super Moderator
Good luck with your progress. It will be worth every minute of the effort you put in - honestly!!!
Would be nice to see some progress pics in a months time
     
    06-13-2013, 11:58 PM
  #87
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Kamakazi    
A horse with a natural high headset (such as an arab) will panic if you try to use training tack to "correct the problem." (not saying that arabs headsets are the problem, I grew up riding arabs).
I think it's more of a discomfort for the rider than the horse. My advice is to just adapt yourself. You can't ask a horse to do something it's not bred for. The arab is never going to be a peanut roller and you shouldn't expect it to be.
My Arab will peanut roll... She's not very straight necked about it as she doesn't HAVE a long neck, but she will peanut roll.



It's not impossible for a horse that's built for a higher head carriage to hold it lower. Once Lily had the proper muscles for it - this became her natural carriage of her neck/head. Since she's out of shape & lacks the muscles that once made this necessary, yes, she's gone back to nose up in the air.

Like other people have said (I stopped reading shortly after the quoted post), do circles or anything but going straight. Do circles, push her forward, and ask her to seek contact with the bit. I sometimes open my inside rein a little to help the bend to the inside & seek contact. You'll get there. Ditch the running martingale too. For a horse who doesn't know to soften & collect it can create the opposite response you want. Instead she'll fight against it and it won't allow you to open your reins if you need to.
     



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