Arg! Frustrating new development with 4yo....

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    10-03-2010, 10:51 PM
Arg! Frustrating new development with 4yo....

Ok, a little background... First Wish was given to me to work with when I first got here to Valhalla. She'd never really been messed with as a 4 yo. Had her feet done, and her wormings, stuck back out to pasture.. that's it. So, I work on her ground manners. When she walks she was a little bit behind my shoulder, so we fixed it. Worked on lunging her... Then Hank Hepperly visits the farm to do a clinic. Owner of First Wish says Hank is going to take over F.W. But she ended up being lame, and was given back to me. So, I've been lunging her in the round pen working on vocal cues, join up, leading. Basic stuff...

So the other day I had the saddle and bridle on her (she's had it on every day for about a week and a half) Everything was going great. Three days ago, I go to lead her into the round pen. Stops dead in her tracks... "Ok, maybe she got spooked." goes through my mind.. a little pushing, and she went in.. Praise praise praise - oats- praise praise praise. We work, and everything goes well. Two days ago, I go to take her into the round pen, stops dead in her tracks. Pushing her doesn't get her in, oats don't get her in... We circle, go at the entrance from a different direction. Stops. So I back her. If she won't go forward, I'm going to make it really uncomfortable for her not to. Doesn't work... It gets to where I'm walking her up to the front, she stops and just starts running backwards.

I ended the session with her just stopping in front of the door. On a positive note...

Sorry its so long.... Anyone have a suggestion?
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    10-03-2010, 11:10 PM
Sounds to me like she's started to associate the round pen with work and she's just being stubborn, you said something about her being lame is she healed enough to work?

I would work her even harder outside the roundpen when she refuses to go in, I think working on the "sending excercise" if your familiar with that, in and out of different intrances.
    10-03-2010, 11:20 PM
Green Broke
^ I agree. I would also double check your saddle fit, and I say this out of my own recent experience with Cinny. I had a saddle for him that I thought fit, and it did fit...when he was chubby. After working and building muscle, getting rid of fat and basically changing body shape it no longer fit and started pinching his shoulders BAD. He started to balk at going into the arena and refused to move any direction except backwards. I gave him a week off and he was fine for the first few days and it happened again. Had a vet and chiro out and it turned out his saddle was bruising his shoulders. Changes saddles, end of problem.
    10-04-2010, 08:45 AM
We're using an older wintec, and it fits her fine. We aren't doing any riding right now, I don't think she's ready. I'm considering just taking today to work her butt off on some hills and lunging outside of the ring. And then working with a co worker to get her into the round pen. :) I'll update tonight.
    10-04-2010, 12:18 PM
I'm sorry but she seems like she is sick and tired of all the work. It sounds like you just keep working her and working her. Maybe you should stop and just spend some time brushing and stuff. She's never going to like the roundpen if you don't make it fun for her. If you work her on the hills and everything like you said you were going to then she isn't going to like you anymore pretty soon too because you mean work. Just my opinion
    10-04-2010, 12:24 PM
Laugh. It sounds like my mare. You have to walk down the driveway to get to the little riding area. After a week of going down the driveway to work every day she refused to go that way anymore.

Sometimes you have to change up your routine so the work place is not always work.
    10-04-2010, 03:27 PM
Well, we aren't always working. I take time every day to talk with her, and do a little bit of massage and acupressure. We walk around the farm, and I'll take her in the round pen and just let her be in there. Some times we'll do lunging, sometimes its join up, sometimes I'll desensitize her. Its never just run run run run run. And I sort of feel like there aren't many areas for us to work really other than the round pen. Maybe its just myself being a little closed to working outside of the round pen...

Oh, new development. Today when I took her out, I pulled her mane, brushed her. Did some new acupressure points for relaxations and some tension relief. Then I decided I just wanted to take her into the round pen, give her some oats and walk out. No tack, no lunge line. When I tried pushing her she balked, backed up like a maniac, and ended with a good rear in my face. So I passed her to a more experienced trainer who she did the same thing with. Now we're passing her to one of the main barn trainers to see if she can work this out. (the backing and rearing) simply bc I feel like I'm not experienced enough to fix that without harming myself, or making a worse habit. :)
    10-04-2010, 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by RogueMare    
Some times we'll do lunging, sometimes its join up, sometimes I'll desensitize her. Its never just run run run run run.
Those are all work in her world.
    10-04-2010, 06:27 PM
Good point.. lol

She's also a mare... I've never gotten along well with any mare...
    10-04-2010, 07:16 PM
Wow, let us know how this gets resolved, id like to know

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