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        07-01-2012, 02:02 PM
      #21
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Palomine    
    Watch for the clues she is giving about trying to eat, and be ready for it. She will possibly have a "far away" feel to her, or one ear will be forward, one back, which means she is up to something.

    At THAT point, cluck, tighten reins, or give her boot to move. Be proactive here, as when you are only reactive it is too late.
    YES!

    Thank you Palomine! This is very good. I'll try. All this advice offers me hope. I haven't given up the idea that maybe she and I can ride well together. Without the feedbag. But I 'm willing to accept it if that's the only way. It bugs me that she looks so dopey. I want to see her pretty face.

    In all honesty, I'd like her to acknowledge me as her rider. I'm working hard for that now. I work to make both horses I ride acknowledge me and what I am trying to do with them. She isn't alone with me on her back. I want to ride her well. But I know limitations too. And the truth is, I'll take what she is capable of giving me. She's a great girl!
         
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        07-01-2012, 02:35 PM
      #22
    Weanling
    Oh god, I had a horse who used to dive for the grass, and stupid me didnt correct it soon enough, wheras it got so bad that he would yank his head down in a trot, coming to an abrupt stop, and start eating grass. Once we were in a field of lush grass, on a XC course, and we were trotting around, when... he yanked his head down abruptly, and started eating grass... I flipped right over his neck, landing VERY un gracefully, while everyone was watching us. Most embarrassing fall EVER. He got so good at hiding that he was about to dive in for grass that you, could, not, tell. At all; That he was about to dive in. BUT, the only times he did dive in was as SOON as I gave a tiny, minute, shouldnt even be noticeable, relax in the reins. He sensed it, and was down. I blame myself for this bad habit of his because I didnt correct it soon enough.

    After that I was done with it, I was absolutely not going to put up with it anymore, and I slapped myself for not correcting him sooner. I just carried a crop with me, and when he put his head down I would smack him hard on the neck with the crop, and pull his head to the side. AND, I kept CONSTANT rein pressure, and did NOT take my eyes off him. I would ride through huge lush grassy pastures, my reins a tad tighter than normal. And the moment, the very millisecond that I gave the smallest bit of release, BAMMMM! Anyway, my two cents.
         
        07-01-2012, 07:08 PM
      #23
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Legend    
    Oh god, I had a horse who used to dive for the grass, and stupid me didnt correct it soon enough, wheras it got so bad that he would yank his head down in a trot, coming to an abrupt stop, and start eating grass. Once we were in a field of lush grass, on a XC course, and we were trotting around, when... he yanked his head down abruptly, and started eating grass... I flipped right over his neck, landing VERY un gracefully, while everyone was watching us. Most embarrassing fall EVER. He got so good at hiding that he was about to dive in for grass that you, could, not, tell. At all; That he was about to dive in. BUT, the only times he did dive in was as SOON as I gave a tiny, minute, shouldnt even be noticeable, relax in the reins. He sensed it, and was down. I blame myself for this bad habit of his because I didnt correct it soon enough.

    After that I was done with it, I was absolutely not going to put up with it anymore, and I slapped myself for not correcting him sooner. I just carried a crop with me, and when he put his head down I would smack him hard on the neck with the crop, and pull his head to the side. AND, I kept CONSTANT rein pressure, and did NOT take my eyes off him. I would ride through huge lush grassy pastures, my reins a tad tighter than normal. And the moment, the very millisecond that I gave the smallest bit of release, BAMMMM! Anyway, my two cents.



    Here's the gorgeous girlie of which we speak. :)

    A solid two cents Legend. Thank you. That is quite a story. And what happened to you was what nearly happened to me last summer. She dived when I had her on a short rein as I was told and I didn't look for cues, didn't even know to look and wouldn't have known what to look for in any case, so when she did that yank I was up and out of my seat and maybe luck or maybe because I have good balance, I did not go ass over head but it was a moment! Jeeze louise.

    She's probably not nearly as willful when her rider is someone who knows horses and can catch her at her shenanigans right off the bat.

    Truthfully it's probably not worth it to have to be on constant vigilance for my time there; I want to ride for the fun of it. I won't crop her and I don't think they'd allow me to correct her that way and while I'm comfortable to use it as a swat to spur a horse on, I wouldn't use it as a correction. I wouldn't know how. And our time together is only seven days and we'll be riding five and a half of them of them. I'll give her a couple of rides, right off the bat where I try to correct her should she dive, assuming we're not doing any climbing and we have some space for me to press forward.

    As I recall, the second or third day the ride is a pip. It's an all day climb and back and it's beautiful but that was the ride where she let me know she was going to snack at will.

    I can tell you that ride UP the mountain fbecame a nightmare because the wrangler advised me over and over to "not let her snack" but she wouldn't let up and I didn't know squat about how to pop, anyway. I was very very new.

    I'm willing to work it lot of different ways, but nomatter what t will be a great time and neither horse nor human is going to be miserable. My time is too short and this place is too much fun. She'll either get me or she won't. And I'll either get her or I won't. No harm trying but it's not going to a battle of wills. That would just be silly on my part. And I really like her. She's a very lovely horse. I fell in love with her and so did everyone else. When they would herd into and out of the area, the children would stand on the side yelling for her. She's very very dramatically beautiful and the second biggest horse in the herd, so she made quite a show.

    You've given me a lot to think about. You all have. Thank you.
         

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