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  • My horse trys to bite me and turn in circles and gets mad when i try picking her feet up what can i do
  • Will a pregnant horse change attitudes

 
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    12-02-2007, 08:09 PM
  #1
Weanling
ATTITUDE!

Hi :) I was wondering...one of my friends has a coming 2 year old filly (23 months) who is a ROTTEN BRAT, lol. There is no better way to describe her. She will listen when she wants to but any other time...no way. We are lunging her...and she has gotten to the point where she will NOT change directions. She knows how to, she's done it before but not anymore. She will just stand there and look at you like "what are you going to do now? Haha". And sometimes she will get into tantrums where when you try to move her over, she shoves into you and nearly knocks you over and trys kicking out when you are picking up her feet. And the WHOLE time she is doing it she's watching you, like she's egging you on...lol almost like she wants to see you get mad at her.

Soooo, does anyone have any suggestions on what to do to get her to chill out? Anything would be great, thanks!
     
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    12-02-2007, 11:59 PM
  #2
Started
Maybe you could do some Parelli with her. I guarentee that will help you!
     
    12-03-2007, 06:46 AM
  #3
Super Moderator
Well, may be she's just getting bored so doesn't want to change directions anymore. In that age she's too young to do anything for long time. Actually 15-20 mins of work is already enough for them. Better go with 2-3 15 mins sessions a day than 1 hour in one time.
     
    12-03-2007, 12:01 PM
  #4
Weanling
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val
Well, may be she's just getting bored so doesn't want to change directions anymore. In that age she's too young to do anything for long time. Actually 15-20 mins of work is already enough for them. Better go with 2-3 15 mins sessions a day than 1 hour in one time.
I don't think it's an issue of her being bored. We've only been lunging her 15-20 minutes a day, and not 5 minutes into it when you ask for the change, she resists. I don't know how it is for anyone else, but I can tell when a horse is trying to do what you ask...as opposed to flat out ignoring the command. And that's what she's doing. It's so frustrating. I would try doing 15-20 minutes 2-3 times a day, but I just don't have the time between my job and my own horses. The owner can't either as she only has 2 hours a day to be with her horses (she has 6), plus she's pregnant. Thank you so much for the suggestion though :) I really appreciate it
     
    12-03-2007, 12:20 PM
  #5
Super Moderator
Frankly, both my horses hate lunging. :) They do if I ask, but I can see the expression on their faces.

Have you tried to do something else with her besides the lunging to teach her to turn etc.? You can do lots of bending, move the hindquarters, move the front feet in circle, make them walk by you and turn when you turn (with no use of lead rope), back up, turn them around with the lead rope, etc. You can also attach the long lead rope on both sides of the halter and make her change the direction with the outside rope when doing lunging.
     
    12-03-2007, 03:46 PM
  #6
Weanling
If she is not even two yet, why not try leaving her alone for a month or two to let her mature. I've worked young horses before and sometimes when they go sour it's them telling you they need a break.

If this is not the case then you need to be more dominant in the relationship cause she's worked you out! If she's running through you it's because you let her, try thinking like a horse, if they do not want to be run through they act big and scary with teeth and feet. I'm not saying you should bite her but try waving your arms and growling at her when she is comming towards you. If your lunging I presume that you use a lunge whip this can also act as "teeth" and make you seem a lot bigger iin the horses eyes.
     
    12-03-2007, 04:19 PM
  #7
Weanling
I'll try pretty much anything! Lol I haven't worked with her yet except for the time that I was shown the ropes. I've known her since she was 11-12 months old because I worked for her owner and the horse has allllways been like this. But since my friend is pregnant she asked me to help her out.

I'lll try being MORE dominant, she's just SO stubborn when you try getting all big and scary she just stands there! It's the craziest thing. I'm so used to my own baby who is so easy going and submissive it's a huge leap out of my comfort zone to deal with this horse, haha.
     
    12-03-2007, 08:39 PM
  #8
Started
I still think you should try Parelli From what it sounds like, she is what Parelli refers to as a Left Brained Introvert. They have a Horsenality chart on their website that you can fill out and they have strategies to help you.
     
    12-04-2007, 11:22 AM
  #9
Foal
Horses, like children, also have their good and bad days - and many young horses go through that terrible two stage or aren't consistent in their behaviour/attitude.

It sounds like she could be getting bored, or perhaps feels like there's too much pressure on her - perhaps she is being trained too extensively or too regularly? At that age, they have very short attention spans, and you constantly need to provide them with new 'puzzles' to work out to keep their minds stimulated. Lunging is something that is, to most horses, irritating and dull, so this could be it. I would give her a break from it and try something else and groundwork exercises, such as Parelli, are great to keep young horses listening and focused.
     
    12-04-2007, 04:51 PM
  #10
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Spirithorse
I still think you should try Parelli From what it sounds like, she is what Parelli refers to as a Left Brained Introvert. They have a Horsenality chart on their website that you can fill out and they have strategies to help you.
Yeah! I just saw that article in horse illustrated, it was very interesting. I haven't used it with her in mind, so I will have to go back. Are you suggesting the seven games?? I've heard about those and I actually have level 1, but I haven't ever used it.

JAYDEE1608: Hi :) Thank you for the advice! I really don't think it's a boredum issue though, she has been like this since i've known her (she was 11 months old), my friend purchased her from an auction and we are pretty sure she was spoiled and allowed to do whatever she wanted. She has no respect whatsoever and is very high and mighty. I will def. Start from the beginning with ground work and such because it's not very safe around her. I mean, she has her good days, but when she gets in one of those moods...she will hurt someone. You and spirithorse are suggesting the same thing, so I will try it out.

Thanks so much guys.
     

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