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        11-18-2009, 08:36 PM
    Ok! Thanks.. you guys are so helpful!!!
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        11-19-2009, 10:12 AM
    At the risk of continually posting articles...

    The Art of Classical Riding--The Rein-Back

    My greenie responded really well to this. Went from hollow backed, mouth gaping refusal to back up under saddle to taking several fluid steps back with a happy face. My original problem there was likely being too harsh with the reins, and not asking with my seat first.

    Dennis Reis also gives a really good demo and description of how to really ride the back-up, and how important use of the seat can be.
        11-19-2009, 10:33 AM
    Originally Posted by cowgirl4jesus94    
    Same.... I don't use my legs against his side to cue him. I lean back with my feet forward and give him the vocal command and then use rein pressure. Release with each step.
    If you don't use your legs how do you steer him in reverse?? To pull a rein and have his front end move over doesn't do much for precise control??

    Try backing through a obsticle coarse or simple poles laying on the ground. You better have some method of moving the hind end over.

    You steer with your legs.
        11-20-2009, 02:48 PM
    This is how I taught my mare to back up from the ground, and its easy and it works. If you lead her into an area shaped like a you, with not much room for her to move around, and do nothing, sooner or later she will get bored and begin to back out herself. As soon as she begins to back up I would firmly say Back, and reward her with a carrot nib. It involves no pulling, no pressure, and they basically teach themselves. I don't know how to teach it undersaddle, because Im not there yet. :)
        11-20-2009, 03:05 PM
    I rode in a colt-starting clinic with Ray Hunt who probably started 10,000+ horses in his life. The first thing he did was teach you to stop riding and let your horse stop. Don't pull on the riens just imagine your butt is a big anchor and don't move with your horse. He will eventually stop. Then pull back on your reins with about the amount of pressure it would take to pull your bridle across the ground and imagine that there is a helium baloon tied to each shoulder. Stay centered in your saddle because if you lean back you will put more wieght on the legs you want to move. As soon as your horse starts to move back release the reins and sit normally in the saddle. Repeat a thousand times asking for a little more when the horse gets light. I use my legs to control my horse side to side and also to determine how fast they go backward. Sometimes a little spur on the belly helps them to raise thier back and back up collected with thier head down but I don't worry about that untill they back a few steps easily.

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