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        03-08-2008, 11:53 AM
      #21
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    Originally Posted by Small_Town_Girl
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    Originally Posted by SonnyWimps
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    Originally Posted by My2Geldings
    Worth the waiting? It all depends what it is you want to do.
    how old is the stallion, Small_Town? It does depend on what you want to do with him and the age. If you plan on doing jumping, and he's young and still growing, you'll have time to correct the problems for you don't want to start jumping a horse too young.

    Getting rid of any bad habit isn't just a day thing, it takes time. Some horses learn quicker than others; yet others have gotten so used to the bad habit that it's become second nature to them.
    He is 2 yrs.
    All I really want to do is just pleasure ride with him
    And maybe learn to barrel race later on.

    Alright, we all agree that he should be gelded, and in her defence, Small_Town has already made the extremely responsable decision to geld him as soon as she can, so let's congratulate her and move on to bigger and better things :)

    Small_Town, if he is 2 years old right now, and getting saddle broke (each to their own, I am not starting a fight) the most you could do right now is EXTREMELY light work, nothing that will strain his joints - no quick turns, lots of walking, little bits of trotting, and even smaller bits of cantering (walk/jog/lope, if you will... I'm going to speak my English tongue here :P).
    No small circles. No rough terrain if you're trail riding. At 2 years old, you want to set them up to be sound for the rest of their lives, not be crippled by 5.
    I know it is very tempting to just say "heck with it, let's just go for it" and do whatever you want on him, because he "feels" like he can do it, but in reality you might be stressing his joints and creating irreparable damage that won't show for a few years. He's young and will probably show extreme athleticism - it's up to you to be responsable and not push the limits.
    Having said all that, if you are looking to do all of the "fun stuff" (barrels etc) right away, he's not the horse for you. If you have the time and dedication to be able to hold off of everything until his body is ready, and want to be a part of the learning process, then by all means keep him and work it through.
         
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        03-09-2008, 01:29 PM
      #22
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    Dear Small_Town_Girl,

    If you wanted a horse for hobby, why did you bought a 2 years old unbroken stallion instead of an elder, calmer, broken gelding or mare? Change him.

    Returning to gelding for a moment:
    1. Of course its harder to keep a stallion than a gelding or a mare in a public stable with other horses, I agree. But:
    2. What you have written about him, it's the typical behavior of ALMOST ANY 2 years old unbroken stallion grew up in flocks. By gelding him, he will not become an old, shy, handful, reliable horse! Maybe he will after 2-3 years of training.

    It's interesting if you usually begin to ride horses at 2 years old. We in Hungary never ride a horse before 3 or 4 years, and lipizzaners are prohibited to ride on before 5, rather 6 years old. It's just a note.

    On what level do you ride? Are you beginner, intermediate, professional? For a beginner it's not the best choice to begin with a 2 years old horse, even if it's gelded.
         
        03-09-2008, 01:33 PM
      #23
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    Originally Posted by daroczy
    Dear Small_Town_Girl,

    If you wanted a horse for hobby, why did you bought a 2 years old unbroken stallion instead of an elder, calmer, broken gelding or mare? Change him.

    Returning to gelding for a moment:
    1. Of course its harder to keep a gelding or a mare in a public stable with other horses, I agree. But:
    2. What you have written about him, it's the typical behavior of ALMOST ANY 2 years old unbroken stallion grew up in flocks. By gelding him, he will not become an old, shy, handful, reliable horse! Maybe he will after 2-3 years of training.

    It's interesting if you usually begin to ride horses at 2 years old. We in Hungary never ride a horse before 3 or 4 years, and lipizzaners are prohibited to ride on before 5, rather 6 years old. It's just a note.
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    I wish there was such a thing here. We would have a lot more sound horses.
         
        03-09-2008, 01:52 PM
      #24
    Foal
    My2Geldings,
    I think you referred to that I wrote about te age of the ridden horses.
    I forgot about galopp racing throughbreds, they're racing at 2 years old (unfortunatley because when become 13-15 years old, they look like an old, ruined skeleton).
         
        03-09-2008, 01:57 PM
      #25
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    Originally Posted by daroczy
    My2Geldings,
    I think you referred to that I wrote about te age of the ridden horses.
    I forgot about galopp racing throughbreds, they're racing at 2 years old (unfortunatley because when become 13-15 years old, they look like an old, ruined skeleton).
    Yes I was referring to that. It's the same thing with quarter horses. Like the tbs you see those who start quarter horses as 2 year olds. Brakes me heart to see those babies who should be left to be babies for at least 1-2 more years being broke to ride.
         
        03-09-2008, 02:02 PM
      #26
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by daroczy
    Dear Small_Town_Girl,

    If you wanted a horse for hobby, why did you bought a 2 years old unbroken stallion instead of an elder, calmer, broken gelding or mare? Change him.

    Returning to gelding for a moment:
    1. Of course its harder to keep a stallion than a gelding or a mare in a public stable with other horses, I agree. But:
    2. What you have written about him, it's the typical behavior of ALMOST ANY 2 years old unbroken stallion grew up in flocks. By gelding him, he will not become an old, shy, handful, reliable horse! Maybe he will after 2-3 years of training.

    It's interesting if you usually begin to ride horses at 2 years old. We in Hungary never ride a horse before 3 or 4 years, and lipizzaners are prohibited to ride on before 5, rather 6 years old. It's just a note.

    On what level do you ride? Are you beginner, intermediate, professional? For a beginner it's not the best choice to begin with a 2 years old horse, even if it's gelded.
    Well, he was a great price, for such a beautiful qh, I
    I need the experience (what my family says). I just thought
    It would be a wonderful journey for me and "Stormy,"
    To work together and gain one anothers trust.

    Also, quarter horses are ready to break around
    2 or 3 yrs. Of age.

    I will not lie, I'm definitely a beginner, but like I said
    I need the experience, and I'm going to take it very slow with
    Him.

    Oh, and the man who is working with him told me today
    That he is acting a whole lot better! I'm so happy!
         
        03-09-2008, 02:03 PM
      #27
    Foal
    I totally agree.

    Although I'm afraid that modeatrors will drop us out from this topic, maybe we should start another one like this "When to start to ride a horse?"

    But here we have bad habits too. There is another bad use of the showjumping horses. We begin to ride them at 3 or 4 years old, it's good but they begin to competite in the same or next year. An average 5 years old sporthorse here in Hungary goes on 1.30 in competition.
    And goes to the salughter at 16 years old.
    Sad.
         
        03-09-2008, 02:14 PM
      #28
    Started
    Horse do not bite just because your clothes taste good, he's taking advantage of you and that needs to cease. Put a stud chain on him for now and then maybe when he's gelded he'll be better.
         

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