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post #11 of 24 Old 11-21-2012, 02:50 PM Thread Starter
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Progress! Both ponies now wait at the gate when they see me coming, as I am the bringer of food! They'll even lay down with me in the paddock about 10 feet away. So I think they're getting used to me. I looked into ordering some dvds as some suggested, merry Christmas to me! They don't look any better weight wise and for hungry ponies they sure are picky about treats! They won't try carrots, but the colt did pick at a graham cracker my daughter threw over the fence. I've tried putting oil in their feed but unless it is a tiny amount, the mare won't touch it. They like feed and grass, and that's about it. So if anyone has ideas for fatty treats, let me know. I'm going to try apple sauce next, I use it to trick all my horses into loving dewormer tubes.
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post #12 of 24 Old 11-21-2012, 03:16 PM
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Without reading anything, if get a halter on it (I know, not touchable)

I've penned 'wild' horses before to get a halter and drag rope on them.

Well, I'd let it drag a rope and start doing non touch type ground work.
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Eventually I could touch the nose.
And just every day being around it I could touch more and more.
Plus the horse learned to lead during all this.

I got a mustang once that came already halter we with a drag rope. He would lead and load and everything great, but you couldn't touch him yet... Lol
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post #13 of 24 Old 11-22-2012, 09:03 AM Thread Starter
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We have a cow chute I could get them through, but I've never left a rope on a halter. How long, and what material? They'll sniff my hands now before they back up and they ignore me sitting beside them as they eat. They're definitely little characters.
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post #14 of 24 Old 11-30-2012, 10:14 AM Thread Starter
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Well, I have another update. The colt had the runs for a few days after Thanksgiving, I assume because I didn't have time to sit there and make sure he didn't get more than his fair share. A few days of less feed and more hay and hes back to his usual self, aside from some nasty stains on his tail and hind end. Yuck.

They've now gotten to the point where I can rub their necks a little while they eat, and I can walk around them while they munch hay and they don't seem to move more than a few steps out of my path. I started putting my horse halter in my lap while I sit with them so they can get used to the shiny metal and clinking sounds and associate it with food. I'm also going to try sneaking some dewormer in their feed and hopefully they don't notice it. The mare is pretty snooty and turns up her nose if I put more than a small amount of oil in the feed.
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post #15 of 24 Old 11-30-2012, 03:31 PM
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Okay. When I first started raising babies Parelli was the big one that everybody raved about but I was never fond of it.

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Yea, I'm not fond of him either. He's a great trainer, but he's NOT a great teacher. I don't understand why he does certain things.

On that topic, I love watching Clinton Anderson for the sole reason that he explains everything very, very well. You understand completely why he made the smallest adjustment in his body language due to the smallest adjustment in body language from the horse. Something that, for me, Parelli doesn't get across.

So I"d recommend looking to CA for some advice! I've never started an untouched 2 yr old so I can't say I can give you any help!
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post #16 of 24 Old 12-01-2012, 03:55 AM
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Glad to hear your ponies are starting to settle down. Slow and steady is always the best way when able to take the time. They sure are nice looking little pinto's!

If they are still needing homes for some ponies, maybe you could let us know where they are located and maybe some of the good folks here could help out. I mean, who doesn't need a couple ponies to add to their herd??

I could probably talk my hubby into it by telling him to think of them as his ticket to not ride the lawn mower as often.

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post #17 of 24 Old 12-02-2012, 09:42 AM Thread Starter
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That was why I didn't like Parelli much, and I watched every DVD he had out at the time. I felt like there was some 5 minute clip they removed to get the results they did, haha.

The ponies are about 20 minutes outside Okeechobee FL. Shes been getting a handful at a time and gets more as they sell. My two were the biggest ones, if that gives you an idea of the size range. Most all the mares she had were pretty heavily pregnant and all the boys were studs, it's like a surprise grab bag of ponies and minis. Every color you can think of, almost all some variety of pinto. Aside from being skinny mine have been pretty healthy. Clear eyes/nose, not lame, curious, and good poops. Just skinny and ratty looking.

I took more pictures today since it rained and flattened down their winter woolies some. I can't really tell if they've put on much weight yet but they are perkier and friendlier, and today I got my first, quiet little nicker as I came up with hay for them today.

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post #19 of 24 Old 12-02-2012, 06:21 PM
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Today I decided to work with the Shetland colt, as the mare was still in a huff about me exploding on her after she tried to kick me. .... As I come up on her side so I can leave, she flattens her ears and clears the fence, hardly brushing it as she goes.
Wow, sounds like she is terrified of you! I wouldn't go 'exploding' anywhere near a horse who is reacting in fear, as that tends to make it worse, as you've now seen. Calm, non-confrontational approach is best.

I wish she was a normal, social horse so I could kick her butt. ...And if anyone has suggestions for gentling untouched ponies, I am open to them. [/QUOTE]

Um, she is a very normal horse, given her experiences, by the sounds of it. Why do you feel the desire to kick her butt because you got too close & so she escaped in fear?? I just don't get that at all.

Gentling unhandled, fearful horses... First & foremost, if you don't know how to go about it, find someone who does, to help you before more things go wrong.

I'd start out getting them used to me just being around them. Don't get confrontational & try to 'do' anything much or get close to them - ensure if you need to walk past they can get out of your way. Just find 'chores' to do in their vacinity & get them used to your presence first. Then I'd do something like your exercise of teaching the colt not to run away, but to learn to respond to your bodylanguage without fear. Be aware that as they've already had some fears confirmed, they'll naturally be more untrusting of you than an untouched horse would be.
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post #20 of 24 Old 12-02-2012, 06:36 PM Thread Starter
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The mare is actually the more social of the two. I was going past her feed bucket when she tried to kick me, and in my opinion, that isn't fear, that's dominant behavior. So she was standing near the gate when I quietly walked up later to leave, and she jumped it. I wasn't trying to mess with her at the time, but she was blocking the exit, so I had to get past her somehow.

And I'm also not saying she wasn't behaving normally for her circumstances. But for the typical, social, happy horse, I would call her abnormal in comparison. I'm sure everybody has had a frustrated moment with a spooky horse. And no, I wouldn't smack a spooky horse. Just to be clear.

I do have an idea to go about it and they get better every day. I just like to hear other ideas and things I can implement in my daily routine with them. They are my first ponies, I will admit that, but they are coming around. :)
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