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post #1 of 11 Old 03-06-2012, 12:39 AM Thread Starter
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Angry Bad stall manners when being fed!

Okay so I never have a problem with him any other time, until feeding time. He becomes pushy and he tries to nip me if i walk by to feed my other 3 horses. I dont know some times hes an absolute angel and then the next day hes crazy. I think it has something to do with his pinned up energy since hes in is all since the weather has been horid…but really? Annndd another thing after i give him it he paws none stop; how do I correct it, I yell at him and he stops for like a minute then he just continues! Ugh! I can do anything after he has his feed and he goes back to the Jasper i know! Please Help! Smh at him.

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post #2 of 11 Old 03-06-2012, 02:32 AM
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Bring a dressage whip when u feed him. If he so much as looks at u the wrong way, correct the behaviour with the whip. If u get your point across, then he will respect your space. This situation can quickly escalate into food aggression, so its best to get after him hard now.
*just realized that this is happening In a stall.. So get after him by making loud noises the second he acts up (shake rocks in a can, scream like a hooligan, growl, whatever u want) and do not feed him until he stands still. Once he gets the point, increase the time that he must stand patiently until he gets his reward (food)
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I'm going to try that tonight! Thank you!

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My horses used to do this as well. I started teaching them, with whip in hand...that when I walk into their stalls, they are to back up...away from me. They are not to approach me until invited, with some kisses. If they do approach me or try to get to their food before they are invited, they will get smacked on the chest with the whip. Don't have to smack them hard...but enough to get a point across. They are also not allowed to turn their backsides toward me, so they must back up, not turn. They got to the point where the whip is no longer needed, but instead just automatically back up when I go into their stalls.
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Thank you! I can get him to back up after a while just by giving him the "look" haha after a while but I really just want a horse you don't have to worry about getting a chunk taken out of you! I'm most definitely going to try your guys ideas!
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I would not go in with a whip, this is unnecessary.
If he tried to bite as I walked past I would slap him hard across the flat side of his muzzle.
When I go into a stable the horse has to move back to give me room. This is not just at feed time but at all times. If a horse charges me at feed time or is totally disrespectful then he gets the feed, still in the bucket, wrapped around his neck, chest or, if really bad, his head. I will then chase the horse so he is going backwards around the stable until he realises that I mean business.
he can, for that feeding, pick it off the floor.

I will not tolerate ill manners at any time and feed time can be dangerous if they are not corrected.

I have six big young horses in a loose barn where they get fed. They learn that they have to stand back whilst I put the feeds into their pails, if they do not then they get chased and know that I mean business.
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Mine I have taught to stand back and I taught them with a whip. They are not beat or smacked usually with it they get the point I can now go in with a group and bring hay. If they start getting pushy I scold them and tell them back if they do not listen I leave the area and come back with the whip and they scatter it is more of a game than them being scared of the whip. But I do expect them to be respectful and I will smack them if I have to.
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I agree with the above posts. ANY time a horse is pushy you should carry a short whip in your boots and have it at the ready. They do not realize how big they are or how they could really hurt you. I wouldn't apologize to anyone for carrying one.
One more thing...consider those feeding buckets with the big holes that make bolters slow down eating their grain?
Do the same with feeding this horse his hay. When you can--don't know if you feed him every day?--give him only one flake at a time. Let a little bit of time lapse in between the time that he finishes eating that and the next flake and the next one. ALWAYS feed your horses a flake of hay before you give them any grain. Also, fill the water before feeding any grain. It's easier for them to digest it this way, and I always feed this way.
This is food aggression that he's displaying. After you get this under control, periodically make him wait to be served last. Don't do this right now, bc he's too anxious about his food and it will agitate him more, but he needs to know that you are the "food fairy" and need to be respected.
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Yesterday the newly gelded yearling decided when I walked into the loose shed to feed that he would strike out with a front foot, it wasn't a fast strike, more a reach out but aimed at me. I never said a word but ensured that his shin met the side of my boot which has a hard sole to it. He felt it and immediately moved back, he moved back this morning and again this evening when I fed.

It was basically nothing, but, not corrected would mean that he would do it again and again until did damage. A quick correction made him realise that even though I am just 'me', no whip to warn him off, no getting cross, just continuing as normal, if he tries to hurt or frighten me retaliation ensues.
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I would not go in with a whip, this is unnecessary.
If he tried to bite as I walked past I would slap him hard across the flat side of his muzzle.
When I go into a stable the horse has to move back to give me room. This is not just at feed time but at all times. If a horse charges me at feed time or is totally disrespectful then he gets the feed, still in the bucket, wrapped around his neck, chest or, if really bad, his head. I will then chase the horse so he is going backwards around the stable until he realises that I mean business.
he can, for that feeding, pick it off the floor.

I will not tolerate ill manners at any time and feed time can be dangerous if they are not corrected.

I have six big young horses in a loose barn where they get fed. They learn that they have to stand back whilst I put the feeds into their pails, if they do not then they get chased and know that I mean business.
No disrespect intended, but I would never smack a horse on the head. It can create a head shy horse, or if you are not quick enough, you may get bitten, or worse case, if you miss, you can actually injure an eye. If I am going to us a whip to reprimand for a dangerous, or aggressive behavior, it is on the chest or shoulder or even legs depending what they did.
By the time you have left the stall, and the horse is now eating his food off the ground, he has no idea what just happened but only that you bullied him and his food is all over the floor. I don't subscribe to all things of "Natural Horsemanship" but I DO believe you have 3 seconds to make your horse you are about to kill him for an aggressive behavior. You CAN in 3 seconds reprimand and correct your horse...lesson learned.

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