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post #1 of 14 Old 02-15-2011, 03:40 PM Thread Starter
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Balance Training System For Horses

Hello Everyone,

I've been looking into a balance training system for one of my horses and I was wondering what you guys thought of it. I've heard that one of the systems on the maket will jab a horse in the mouth as it moves its hindlegs backwards. Please check this system out and tell me what you think.
Balance Headset Training System - Horse.com

There is also a page that explains how the system works.
http://www.horse.com/ContentFiles/As...structions.pdf

So, what do you think???
Also, do you think that the cords could be attached to the caveson instead of the bit. If the system causes the bit to jump in a horse's mouth everytime they move their legs then maybe if it was attached to the caveson it would cause the halter to rock back and forth and still encourage to horse to flex without being so rough. My horse will flex at the poll in a halter.

Thanks!!!
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Just anouther way to get a quick fix and get people to spend money. There is no substitute for good training and taking your time and doing it correctly.

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Just anouther way to get a quick fix and get people to spend money. There is no substitute for good training and taking your time and doing it correctly.
Sorry, maybe I should have explained more. I'm not looking at this product as a quick fix but more of an aid to help my horse understand what I'm looking for. I intended to use this as a training aid not as a training regimen.
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Still comes down to the same thing.

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Ok, what do you want this product for? Are you wanting your horse to 'arch' it's neck, or are you more concerned about how it is working through it's whole body - forward, engaged and through the back?

If you're looking at just getting a 'headset' (the product name of the above link makes me cringe) then don't bother. Learn how to help the use use it's body in order to come 'through' to the bridle, THEN your 'headset' will come.

If you're looking at something to lunge your horse in, to help it come over the back, this product *may* help, but something to the bit is going to be more effective, to the cavesson you don't have a connection in front.
The pessoa system is very good for working on the horse as a whole, it encourages the hind legs to come under the horse and the back to swing, while working into a nice even contact. There is no pull on the horse's mouth and the hind legs move, as the ropes are on a pulley system so that when the leg moves, the roller just slides along the rope rather than straight to the bit.
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Ok, you're entitled to your opinion. Personally, I will try different methods with my horse until I find something that is easy for her to understand (to build a foundation on) and if it takes a balance training system for her to understand that she can flex her neck and stretch under with her hind feet then it is something I can build on. I don't expect this system to be my only means of encouraging my horse to flex and build her back muscles.
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Ok, what do you want this product for? Are you wanting your horse to 'arch' it's neck, or are you more concerned about how it is working through it's whole body - forward, engaged and through the back?

If you're looking at just getting a 'headset' (the product name of the above link makes me cringe) then don't bother. Learn how to help the use use it's body in order to come 'through' to the bridle, THEN your 'headset' will come.

If you're looking at something to lunge your horse in, to help it come over the back, this product *may* help, but something to the bit is going to be more effective, to the cavesson you don't have a connection in front.
The pessoa system is very good for working on the horse as a whole, it encourages the hind legs to come under the horse and the back to swing, while working into a nice even contact. There is no pull on the horse's mouth and the hind legs move, as the ropes are on a pulley system so that when the leg moves, the roller just slides along the rope rather than straight to the bit.
I'm looking for something that can help my horse learn to flex, round her back muscles, and engage her hindfeet. I'm not worried about headset right now.
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You asked for opinions. I gave mine. If you do not like it that is fine. It is your money and your horse. I just know for a fact that you can get the same result with out spend your money on this.

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As an example,
You could sign up for a course of study,buy the book,buy the CD's,go to the clinic, buy the specialize tack.
Or

Get with someone that has done this before and get some coaching and get your horse into the hills where these muscle groups will develop through use.

Here we are on a 5 mile hill climb and guess what,it develops all the parts that you are talking about.

"The greatest strength is gentleness."
- Iroquois Proverb
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I don't know if there is any real difference between a Pessoa and the system shown there. I don't know if they work or not. I don't know if they are detrimental or not.
But I do know that you do not develop the kind of lift of the back we all seek that enables the horse to reach more under himself and shift more weight to the rear by "building back muscles." as is quoted in the manual. Just like us, the horse lifts his back by engaging his ABDOMINAL muscles , and other muscles that run below the spine /back. He develops his core to strengthen his back. If he is engaging his back muscles (i.e. Contracting them, as that is the only thing a muscle CAN do) then his back will become tighter and shorter and thus drop down.

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