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  • Natural trim vs regular trim navicular

 
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    10-15-2007, 09:27 AM
  #11
Foal
There is no absolute answer for anything. Nobody on this forum can say truthfully whether shoes of any kind or barefoot of any kind will definitely help your horse since they have never met the horse nor seen any diagnostics. (just my two cents and a reminder that the only absolute in life is death.)

That said, navicular is some sort of crack or hole in the navicular bone that floats at the rear of the hoof attatched only by tendons (which pull on the bone every time the horse takes a step). And every time the horse puts weight on the affected hoof the bone is painfully compressed.
The horse's chances for comfort depend heavily on the extent of damage to the navicular bone. The best way to determine the actual present damage is x-rays. Your veterinarian should take x-rays of the navicular bone and rank the crack(s) for your farrier (there is an established ranking system, so your farrier should know exactly what the vet means by a certain rank) who can then determine the best course of action for your horse.
     
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    10-15-2007, 10:02 AM
  #12
Foal
If your horse is acting sore then I would shoe her, if you ride on a lot of black top then I would shoe her and if there are a lot of rocks then I would think about shoeing her, not all horses need shoes.
     
    10-15-2007, 11:47 AM
  #13
Foal
At this point I could care less if she's able to be ridden or not I just want her to be able to walk around in the paddock without pain.

It would be nice if eventually she'd be able to be lightly ridden but my arenas are sand and dirt mixed and there really aren't any hard surfaces that she's have to come in contact with.

I'll keep reading up on the diease and the bast way to go as far as the hooves are concerned.

Thanks for your input
     
    10-15-2007, 01:13 PM
  #14
Showing
Congrats; I love hearing about rescues as well; very nice. :)
My horse is barefoot; & I see nothing wrong with it. I never had any problems. ;) It's actually healthy for their hooves.
Anyway, good luck with her I hope she continues to do well.
     
    10-15-2007, 03:27 PM
  #15
Foal
Thanks I hope so too. She deserves it
     
    10-15-2007, 09:55 PM
  #16
Started
The difference between a "natural" trim and a regular trim are based on several things. A lot of farriers (not all) will take the sole off a horse, just as if they were about to put a shoe on. This is the worst thing you can do because the horse probably will be sore because all that calloused sole he worked so hard for is now gone. We have to leave the sole alone. Also, a lot of farriers will not put a "mustang roll" on the toe. The mustang roll will help prevent chipping, cracking, and flarring. It will also start to help the hooves become more concave and not flat. If you go on to Pete Ramey's website you will see pics of how horse's hooves should look like. GORGEOUS feet!! Sometimes farriers leave the hooves too long or the heels too high. A lot of horses will develop the "long toe, under-run heel" syndrome.
     
    10-16-2007, 12:02 AM
  #17
Started
Re: Barefoot Trimming vs. Shoes

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Originally Posted by Taylor99
Okay I have recently rescued a tb from the slaughter house. I normally don't do that sort of thing for just any horse but this one came with a story and a heartbreaking backround that I just had to help her. She is a navicular horse and was badly shod in the past which led to her condition. She has been shod pretty much all her life and she is 11 now. What I wanted to ask was: she is currently on shoes but she is not very sound and currently unridable. I was wondering if barefoot trimming would help her at all. Not neccessarily to be ridden but just so that she can be comfortable. I know this is a very controversial subject but I wanted to know what you guys thought and what you do with your own horses. Also, if anyone out there has a navicular horse or knows about the disease, what are your thoughts??? Thanks, taylor :)
I have not had the misfortune to have a horse who suffers from extreme heel pain. I do have a friend who is my trimmer(and a very good one) who does help horses who are diagnosed with navicular. She is currently working on another(mutual) friends gelding with this. My answer is YES, a good correct Barefoot trim will certainly help any hoof pathology. Help is out there! You can always use the hoof boots to help keep the horse comfortable during the transistion and at any time necessary. Booting makes the hoof care much more productive as it causes no further stress to the hoofwall or internal structures. They can be removed and put on as needed, trimmed often to help the hoof heal faster and to assess the condition.

My favorite barefoot group is the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/barefoothorsecare/list at Yahoo. There may be a trimmer near you.. Check it out.
     
    10-16-2007, 05:48 PM
  #18
Foal
Okay I consulted my farrier and he said it would be a good idea for us to take the shoes off so we did and she is really sore at the moment but he said it would take time for her to get used to it.

He is a barefoot trimmer as well as shoes, he believes that certain horses need shoes and others don't so we'll see how she does with it.

I'm excited to see how she reacts in a couple of weeks when it starts to kick in. I hope all goes well with this mare! She is my pride and joy at the moment. My other horse just died at the age of 33 right before I got her. I reared and raised him myself when I was 15 and it tore me apart when he passed so Marcie (that's the tb mare) is filling a hole. I have 18 other horses but she's extra special.

Thanks everyone for your help and support!
     
    10-16-2007, 05:53 PM
  #19
Foal
Yeah I asked my farrier about the "natural" trim and he is against it as well. Marcie isn't being trimmed this way he said exactly what you said about it. Her hooves look just right at the moment

Thanks!! :)
     
    10-16-2007, 05:59 PM
  #20
Trained
I'm sorry to hear about your other horse, but he sure was lucky to have you! I hope everything goes well with Miracle! Have fun with her
     

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