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  • Explain basic dressage moves
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    02-10-2008, 11:03 PM
  #11
Started
Do you guys mean haunches/shoulder in as a pivot? On the fore and rear hand? And what exactly is a leg yield? Sorry....
     
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    02-10-2008, 11:04 PM
  #12
Started
Nevermind the leg yield question lol
     
    02-10-2008, 11:31 PM
  #13
Green Broke
I have a feeling JustDressageIt will be able to explain a little better then I can (or correct me if I'm wrong!) but here goes:

Turns on the forehand: Front legs stay in the same area, the back legs will step to the side (the inside leg will cross under his belly across the outside leg, and then the outside leg will step out). You can make a complete circle around but it's a slower calculated step by step movement, not a spin. You influence exactly when his leg steps.

Turns on the haunches: Kind of the opposite, front legs move and his back leg stays in the same area.

Shoulder-in: Instead of going straight, your horse moves along the rail in a straight line holding body a little diagonally (shoulder is more in the inside of the arena with his haunches on the rail) making 3 tracks with his feet instead of 2. Track 1: inside front, track 2: outside front and inside hind, track 3, outside hind.

Haunches in: kind of the same only with the haunches on the inside of the arena and shoulders on the rail.

Does that make sense? This is my "I ride dressage in brown tack" explanation. Fortunately we had this amazing dressage trainer move kind of close by (she's a FEI trainer/competitor, USDF Bronze and Silver medalist and so incredibly nice!) and she comes to our barn to do lessons/clinics every other week. She's a little pricey but an incredible instructor.

You could also get on youtube and look up some of these movements to see what they look like. It's easier to see then explain. :)
     
    02-11-2008, 12:04 AM
  #14
Green Broke
Trying not to be a post hog.... :) but I just remembered! Do you get practical horseman magazine? The past several issues have had step by step instruction on how to do a lot of these lateral movements. I do echo what someone else said, ask a trained professional to help you! I can't imagine what it'd be like to try and learn some of this stuff by reading a book. So much of it's a feel and often you need eyes on the ground telling you when you're doing right, what you need more of, etc.
     
    02-11-2008, 12:38 AM
  #15
Showing
Hehe upnover got it right!! Couldn't have said it better myself.

Just a couple of things:

- With shoulder in and haunches in, keep the horse flexed to the inside. A small circle done before starting the haunches in will really help... keep the bend of the circle, just make the horse travel down the rail instead And three tracks is correct.
-When doing a shoulder in, imagine you're going to go across the diagonal, then change your mind at the last second, and ask your horse to move down the rail holding the position. You should be able to break from the shoulder in to go across the arena at any time.
- When doing turns on the forehand and haunches, NEVER let your horse take a step backwards - you ALWAYS want impulsion (in forward movement) so if your horse is going to break from the pivot, make sure it's in a forward movement.
- Leg yields: do not slow down and lose impulsion to do this. Don't let your horse be sucked back to the wall - you should take from "D" to either "M" or "H" to get back to the wall; think "one step over, one step forwards." Watch your movement in a mirror - 9 riders out of 10 will make the horse lead with one quarter or the other - hind or fore - so make sure your horse is moving in unison. You shouldn't be able to see the hind end sticking out from either side, it means either the horse is leading with the hind or fore, and neither is good, the horse should be moving all together.

Okay enough for now Hope it helped!
     
    02-13-2008, 07:31 PM
  #16
Foal
I have taught myself ALOT by reading books. Not that that works for everybody, but I am that kind of learner, I guess. A great book I picked up at Barnes & Noble is The Complete Equine Training Manual compiled by Jo Weeks. It is very easy to understand and has all the basics for English riding including dressage and jumping (lots of great pictures too). It also has alot of trouble shooting tips for problems you might encounter. It also illustrates the "7 games" Pat Pirelli teaches which I have read many posts from people who could benefit from playing these basic games to teach respect! I have found it a very valuable resource. If you really are interested in this book, look on amazon.com, I saw that I could have saved alot of money getting it there even with shipping. They have great deals. It is always a good idea to have someone who can keep tabs on you like a friend or 4H leader who can see things from the ground that you can't, but I am a firm believer that you can learn alot of concepts from reading. Then comes the challenge of putting those learned concepts into practice on your horse if things don't come together at first, don't give up you'll get it, and when you do it is a great feeling! Good luck!
     
    02-14-2008, 04:09 PM
  #17
Foal
Now that you're getting into riding English, Hunt Seat Equitation by George Morris is a great book to read. It starts with the very basics of the huntseat position and then goes into the details. George Morris is probably the world's leading expert on classic equitation. He knows his stuff and is well respected.

If you can get a subscription to Practical Horseman, I think you'd love it. It's packed with great information about jumping and dressage. You'd learn a lot I'm sure. I learn so much knew every month my brain can't hold it all in. But it's a great way to be able to learn from the country's top trainers!
     

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