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    06-18-2011, 01:49 PM
  #11
Started
Welcome to the forum, & glad that you want to get a partnership going with your mare!

Your question opens the door to as many opinions as there are people who'll answer it, right? ;)

So, here's mine: Parelli, Level 1-2, 7 Games (groundwork), Horsenalities, yet with a qualified mentor who can assist you on-site if necessary. (How close is aunt?) I add this proviso due to many PP students who've missed the boat because no mentor was there to help. (like trying to learn ballet from dvd's, with no teacher to correct).

Learning as much as you can about the bnt's via that link is of course advisable. Some are good trainers, yet aren't entertaining, btw! Some are harsher than they need be, some keep their horses' heads looking down at their feet, which you'd want to avoid, & some MAKE their horses do stuff, rather than motivate the horse to want to be with them because it's fun. I'm sure you want your mare to WANT to be your partner.

I suggest also that you ask for wisdom from Above on your choice, because horsemanship wisdom is not human speculation, opinion, fashion applied to the horse, but is wisdom/understanding that can only be given from Above.
     
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    06-18-2011, 07:54 PM
  #12
Weanling
Clinton Anderson, get his book "Downunder Horsemanship, Creating Respect and Control for English and Western Riders". It is a MUST for every rider as far as I'm concern. I have highlighted, made notes, and lent my copy out so many times and it has always benfitted everyone in some way.
Kelly Marks "Teach Your Horse Perfect Manners" is another great book.
Both of these trainers use a version of Monty Roberts Join Up. Both are great tools!
     
    06-20-2011, 09:40 AM
  #13
Foal
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Originally Posted by Northern    
Welcome to the forum, & glad that you want to get a partnership going with your mare!

Your question opens the door to as many opinions as there are people who'll answer it, right? ;)

So, here's mine: Parelli, Level 1-2, 7 Games (groundwork), Horsenalities, yet with a qualified mentor who can assist you on-site if necessary. (How close is aunt?) I add this proviso due to many PP students who've missed the boat because no mentor was there to help. (like trying to learn ballet from dvd's, with no teacher to correct).

Learning as much as you can about the bnt's via that link is of course advisable. Some are good trainers, yet aren't entertaining, btw! Some are harsher than they need be, some keep their horses' heads looking down at their feet, which you'd want to avoid, & some MAKE their horses do stuff, rather than motivate the horse to want to be with them because it's fun. I'm sure you want your mare to WANT to be your partner.

I suggest also that you ask for wisdom from Above on your choice, because horsemanship wisdom is not human speculation, opinion, fashion applied to the horse, but is wisdom/understanding that can only be given from Above.

I did see the Horsenalities dvd from Parelli , thought it interesting. My aunt lives in Kentucky. I live in Ontario, Canada. LOL and we talk thru email, so no visual help there. I am pretty much on my own. So when I'm ready to I'll go looking for some other horse people in my area.
And as far as asking for wisdom from Above, that depends on where your coming from....If your talking Phillip 4:6-7 kind of asking, then absolutly.
     
    06-20-2011, 09:44 AM
  #14
Foal
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Originally Posted by heartprints62    
Clinton Anderson, get his book "Downunder Horsemanship, Creating Respect and Control for English and Western Riders". It is a MUST for every rider as far as I'm concern. I have highlighted, made notes, and lent my copy out so many times and it has always benfitted everyone in some way.
Kelly Marks "Teach Your Horse Perfect Manners" is another great book.
Both of these trainers use a version of Monty Roberts Join Up. Both are great tools!

Thanks for the suggestions. Books are always good. Something to do when you can't get outside due to weather .
     
    06-20-2011, 10:17 AM
  #15
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I think you should take a look at all trainer's methods.

It will help you to become a more well-rounded horseman in that you can accept information from any person, eventhough you may wish to not use that method. Keeps you from becoming a "its my way or the highway" type of person. Lol

I personally LOVE Clinton Anderson and his method. Does that mean I will only use his and believe that everyone else's is useless? Nope. I would say about 75% of the techniques I use for ground work and some undersaddle methods are from him but I also enjoy using Linda Tellington-Jone's TTouch Method for helping relax the horse. I greatly enjoy using Monty Robert's method of Join Up. I like Parelli's work to a certain point--mostly just the horsenalities.

So my advice to you is to do lots of research, looking around and find what clicks with you the best. :)
     
    06-20-2011, 11:06 AM
  #16
Foal
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Originally Posted by GeminiJumper    
I think you should take a look at all trainer's methods.

It will help you to become a more well-rounded horseman in that you can accept information from any person, eventhough you may wish to not use that method. Keeps you from becoming a "its my way or the highway" type of person. Lol

I personally LOVE Clinton Anderson and his method. Does that mean I will only use his and believe that everyone else's is useless? Nope. I would say about 75% of the techniques I use for ground work and some undersaddle methods are from him but I also enjoy using Linda Tellington-Jone's TTouch Method for helping relax the horse. I greatly enjoy using Monty Robert's method of Join Up. I like Parelli's work to a certain point--mostly just the horsenalities.

So my advice to you is to do lots of research, looking around and find what clicks with you the best. :)

Very true, and I will starting doing that, I was thinking along the same lines as you with your line up of people. Start off with Monty Roberts, because although Seren doesn't run away from me when I go out to get her ( quite the opposite ) we still need to start at the bottem and join up again, because she knows me quite well, and what I won't and most off will let her get away with. So in the begining she'll probably think I've gone off the deep end..."eh what? Your trying to talk to me??" lol
But yeah, TTouch looked extreamly interesting also. So all in all, I need to start with one method...because other wise my brain will explode from mental overload..... :P ....after I get the first phase down and I'm comfortable I'll start looking at other people. After all no two horses are the same and one might work for her horse , but doesn't work for me or Seren.
     
    06-20-2011, 06:57 PM
  #17
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Dwl Merlyn Ledi    
Thanks for the suggestions. Books are always good. Something to do when you can't get outside due to weather .

You're very welcome! GOOD LUCK!
     
    06-22-2011, 10:27 AM
  #18
Foal
I'd suggest starting off with Monty Roberts, he's pretty good, and I learnt loads form him. I'm not to sure about the others, as I haven't looked them up yet.

I don't think I would suggest Parelli straight away. I'm going through his level 1 stuff now, and I think that it advertises itself as "the only way" just a tad too much. If you do start off with Parelli, then I'd suggest keeping an open mind, as well as reserching other methods.

But other then that, I agree with ridergirl23 and GeminiJumper on keeping methods from different trainers. The horse isn't going to care whether the techniques used are called "making money by marketing to the horse people" or "joe blogs secret training style", as long as it works and is right for her.

Hope I helped
     
    06-22-2011, 12:30 PM
  #19
Doe
Weanling
If possible try to be clear on the differences in the types of training, rather than the personalities as many are copies of each other.

For example Monty Roberts is focussed on Join up and the Dually halter. Though he claims to have invented it, others would argue it's no different from traditional vaquero methods.

Then you have the NH games people. Parelli, Clinton Anderson, La Cense. They are all absolutely identical in their approach. They all apply identical techniques with different titles so it comes down to personalities. Parelli has horsenalities which have no scientific grounding but can help the new horseperson with a focus. So with these it really comes down to personalities and which you prefer.

Then you have the likes of Tellington. I've trained with Robyn her sister on courses and it's a very different approach again. A lot of synergy with Peggy Cummings work and Sally Swift also. It's less of the 'tricks' and more a focus on horse balance and stability. The groundwork can also be harder to do solo as some of it needs 2 or 3 people. It's also very hard to learn from a book.

Then there's the Resnick, and Hempfling group who are different again.
Carolyn Resnick refers to the Waterholes Rituals so very well marketed like Parelli, but has no similarity really. Its very friendly and easy to follow and a genuine alternative to NH for new and experienced horsepeople.

Hempfling comes from a more classical approach but with a truly empathetic view. Even less tricks but simply a presence that is so genuine and so strong that the horse follows without question very quickly. It's not something you can really teach easily. It's something that some people will eventually learn and assimilate, some would be able to do it naturally and others never will get. Its about supporting the horse to reach their potential and yours rather than producing a motorbike or a robot.

So to save money have a look in categories like that. Otherwise you could end up buying DVDs or books that simply replicate each other.

HTH with your journey.
     

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