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        05-02-2009, 07:40 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    Its in teh critique section but this is the horse im going to see tomorrow

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        05-02-2009, 10:29 PM
      #12
    Showing
    I'm very sorry to hear your story. It's just very, very sad she does things like that, and I understand you can't go anymore. I know you tried hard, may be you two just didn't stick together. I wish you best luck in finding "horse of your life"!
         
        05-02-2009, 10:36 PM
      #13
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by HorsesAreForever    
    Ive had so many parelli people saying its MY fault!! And is been bringing me down! Im getting so disapointed in them.
    There is NO technique, which works for EVERY horse. (do not want to start the discussion here, it's just my opinion). So don't blame yourself and don't pay attention.

    I worked with rearing horse once. Spent a year bringing him from abusive situation malnourished horribly. Guess what, after picking up weight and energy he became pretty dangerous to ride for me, and VERY dangerous to ride for everyone else. Thankfully he wasn't my horse, so at some point I just said - it's enough.
         
        05-02-2009, 10:36 PM
      #14
    Foal
    I read in the ad that you said she's a quiet ride for a confident rider....I hope you're going to tell the prospective buyer about your issues with this horse.

    Good luck on your next horse, by the way. When you do go looking, I'd suggest watching the owners handle the horse through and through and handling it yourself before you buy.
         
        05-03-2009, 08:05 AM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Yeah im going to watch her work with the mare as well. I don't want a push button horse I want a safe kind of challenge which she said she just needs someone who knows how to get her going. Im excited

    And The ad I put up that's teh horse im looking to buy! :)
         
        05-03-2009, 09:36 AM
      #16
    Foal
    I have to ad that I do think there are certainly dangerous horses out there.

    Now, I don't know you or your horse, I haven't read any other threads, but I can certainly relate to this thread.

    I agree with who said that there is not a cure for every horse, and not every technique will work on every horse.

    I owned a mare not long ago, was lied to up & down about her. I really did not mind, however, because I saw a lot of prospect in her, and I've worked with & trained many horses over the years, multitudes of personalities and temperaments.

    This mare would do the exact same thing. She would be perfectly fine one moment, and then completely do a 180 and it was as though a switch went off. She would get nasty and take off, bucking, spinning, and running to the walls.

    I tired endlessly to work with her, I tried a lot of things. I was never once harsh with her. Still, nothing worked.
    My point being, she was just dangerous. I am led to believe that she had something wrong 'upstairs'. She was not completely mentally able to perform a job that I was asking her to. She was the sweetest horse on the ground, sweet natured, but when you asked things of her, I do believe she was not able to mentally handle it.

    For what reason, I don't know. Perhaps she was abused, perhaps she had other incidents happen to her previously. But it was not safe for anybody to work with her. There was no correcting it. I ended up taking her to an auction, I was not about to sell her to anybody knowing that she could seriously hurt someone.

    So my point, after my novel, is that it is not your fault in any way, and please do not blame yourself in any way. Who knows if she was abused, and who knows what had happened to her before you got her. Some horses simply can not be fixed or altered how we'd like them to be. They are about 10x the size as us, and can be very dangerous animals.

    I think you are doing the right thing.
    Good luck on your horse search.
    :)
         
        05-03-2009, 12:22 PM
      #17
    Foal
    It's funny you know, I've noticed a lot of people saying they've had mares who had "dangerous" issues and I did too at one point. It was a QH mare, extremely unpredictable, the perfect horse one day (quiet, responsive, obedient) and literally the next day she was an absolute terror - taking off, shying, bucking, rearing, the whole nine yards. I, too, had to make the difficult decision to sell her and give up. I wonder if sometimes certain mares just have a bad hormonal imbalance that upsets them and makes them this way.

    Don't look at this as accepting defeat or anything, look at it as a learning situation. :) I think you should definitely look for a horse that you "click" with, whether it's fully trained or a greenie. If you and a horse just "fit" with each other there's a lot you can overcome together. My mare and I didn't fit each other. Neither did you and your mare, nor NoFear and her mare. It just happens. Not every horse is meant for every rider. I think you made a very smart decision in deciding to sell her, it's best for both of you! Good luck in searching for your new partner and friend!! Keep us posted.
         
        05-03-2009, 03:24 PM
      #18
    Started
    I just remembered something that I thought you might find interesting. I am subscribed to parellis email and a few weeks ago I read an article in there where a girl was asking help from her horse. She said she was lvl 2 student. She said her horse would ride fine for a while and then start bucking and not give any warning signs whatsoever. Their advice to this girl was that a horse that gives no warning signs before it bucks is very dangerous and should not be ridden. They said she should just make the horse a master at ground work and never ride her. If I can find the article again I will post it. Just thought that youd find that interesting since the parelli people blamed you.
         
        05-03-2009, 09:47 PM
      #19
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sandy2u1    
    I just remembered something that I thought you might find interesting. I am subscribed to parellis email and a few weeks ago I read an article in there where a girl was asking help from her horse. She said she was lvl 2 student. She said her horse would ride fine for a while and then start bucking and not give any warning signs whatsoever. Their advice to this girl was that a horse that gives no warning signs before it bucks is very dangerous and should not be ridden. They said she should just make the horse a master at ground work and never ride her. If I can find the article again I will post it. Just thought that youd find that interesting since the parelli people blamed you.

    Ooooor one could try a different trainer/method.

    HAF, I do believe that you are in over your head with this mare; I have maintained that for the past year, since you first got her and were having trouble with her. I do think she is a nice mare that will go well with someone that has the time and funds to do some MAJOR retraining with her. It will probably take a long time with a professional trainer, working from the ground up again.

    I do not think you ruined her - I think you tried to the best of your ability, but for this particular mare it wasn't enough there is nothing to be ashamed of with that, HAF, it happens to everyone. The really good thing is that you're realizing this and are doing something about it.

    Please for the sake of your reputation and the health of everyone involved, please tell whoever is interested in her that she does have problems, and lay them out point blank. In some parts, you can be held liable.

    I honestly wish you and Chance the best of luck finding the situation that works best for both of you.
         
        05-04-2009, 02:47 PM
      #20
    Green Broke
    Thanks so much JDI and everyone else! I went to see 3 horses the other day one is that mare..UGH!!! I would never be abel to own a horse like that, she had cracked feet a HUGE attitude under saddle fussed a lot CANNOT ride unless her head is set and if its not she starts flipping it around..

    The other horse she has lameitis or how ever you spell it. And needs special shoes.. I don't want to have a unsound horse.

    The 3rd horse was AWESOME a little spooky but totally western But he would never have the heart to do english and he loves what he's doing. But I learned A LOT from the guy and what I can start doing with chance to get a good stop ect and get her on her hind.

    Im still going to look at horses. But in the mean time im going to keep working with chance but Im dropping parelli pretty much and going "classic" Lungeing and getting her to work again.

    Im just waiting for that horse I "click" with.
         

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