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post #21 of 29 Old 01-18-2008, 11:55 PM
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Usually WP mounts are trained (&shown) first in the hackamore (up to 5 years, I believe?), then a snaffle (can't remember the age limit on this, I think it's to 6??), then the "finished" horse gets put on a curb.
I'm mostly an english rider, and when I competed western, it was on my mare that was too old (by that I mean 7 or 8 ) to compete in a snaffle or hackamore. I just remember my trainer saying something along these lines.
My trainer started her show gelding off in a halter, and now he has a very soft mouth... it may just be him (quite possibly) or the fact that he was started with a halter.. I'm not sure :P
That's false, WP horses can be shown in a bosal or ring snaffle 5 & under and then they must be shown one handed in a curb bit.
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I usually start my pleasure horses in an offset D ring Robart, these are great bits, awesome for using with draw reins, really easy to set heads in. Then I either move up to a twisted snaffle if the horse is a little hardheaded, or an easy horse I use a bosal. Then I move up to a curb bit. Draw reins are key in getting a WP horse collected and headset.
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Oh, alrighty then, thank you.

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Okay, quixotesoxs, that makes sense since I saw the WP horses competing in bosals and snaffles together.

However, I don't agree that draw reins are the key to a good headset. If a horse is well-balanced, they will collect underneath themselves and you can get a headset through this technique. I believe (and this is only my opinion) that draw reins should only be used to show the horse into a headset, not to be used to force them into it, or get them to collect. A horse should be muscled enough and be able to hold a headset without draw reins before you ask for collection.


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dressageit is right, i put it in the wrong way. i meant get your horse collected and on the bit, but eventually you will want draw reins. if you ask anybody who does wp, they have used draw reins at one time. i know it sucks, but they need to be used to get the low headset required. thats why i don't do wp anymore because its so artificial.
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Ha ha, yeah I know all about draw reins, and considering I'm obsessed with headsets, I pretty much love draw reins.

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post #27 of 29 Old 01-23-2008, 09:36 PM
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Well, personally I have known many people who train very nice horses without the use of draw reins. They aren't in fact nescessary but when you need to use them, they are quite effective.

There are many horses whose natural way of going is just very relaxed and slow and western pleasure is their best discipline. These horses are a pleasure to ride and a pleasure to handle and often compete quite successfully in halter, showmanship and horsemanship as well. These horses would be confused if confronted by a cow or a jump. I like to compare them to comfort food :)
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i mould say start with a snaffle, move to a bosel for shows and then slowlt wean into a shank snaffle than go from there!! Thats what i do with all of mine and it works on almost all except the occasional fruit cake!!

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Bits for western training

The trainer I have been helping has a very effective way to train a horse to have a good mouth for western bits. First we use a regular loose ring snaffle. Once the horse responds well to the snaffle we move up to Argentine snaffle. It's a great transition bit from a snaffle to a western curb. Finally once the horse is confident with the Argentine bit we step up to the curb. This has worked very well for all the horses I have seen trained and I hope it helps you!!
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