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    11-13-2007, 02:22 PM
You go, girl! :P
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    11-13-2007, 03:30 PM
The other thing with the bit seat is that it smooths out the teeth which is a big no no. Horses teeth are naturally "rough" for lack of a better word so they can grind their food, etc. When the molar table is smoothed out, the horse's teeth become slick and the grinding action, or acclusion, is lost. The horse's teeth become like a rubber hose which throws the TMJ off, sometimes causing constant migranes. Some horses that are labled as being "crabby" are simply in constant pain from their TMJ being off.
    11-13-2007, 06:08 PM
I just want to reitterate what I said in my original post: she is NOT dropping feed or losing weight. She is NOT negative when being ridden (does not pin ears, swish tail, tense up, anything). She does not appear to be in any pain - I suppose she could be, but it is not obvious is she is. She simply grinds on the bit every few minutes and does a lot of pushing on and leaning on the bit.

On a second note, I love my horses, and make sure they are well cared for, BUT, I am not flying someone up to Alaska to work on teeth that may or may not need anything done. At some point, if there was enough interest in the community, it might be possible, but that is just not realistic for an individual to do.

I will go read that article now... :)
    11-13-2007, 06:18 PM
That was interesting. Has anyone tried that gumbits? That is why I posted this question...I wondered if it were just a weird habit (like people who bite fingenails).

Also, Spirithorse, what kind of bit might be tried to see if the bit is causing the crinding because of a lack of relief on the tongue? I have tried the single and double jointed snaffle (both apply different kinds of pressure correct?). Maybe one of thos rubber bits? A curved bit with no joints?

She only grinds the bit as far as I can tell....not just her teeth in general.
    11-13-2007, 07:33 PM
I'm not sure if you have ever tried a Myler bit but they have a bit asssistant you could try. At least get some idea what the best type of bit would be
    11-13-2007, 09:24 PM
Yea, I was going to say you might want to look into Myler bits. There is one in particular (can't remember the name) that offers the most tongue relief. It's one that has the widest port, therefore offering the horse more tongue relief.

Single jointed bits apply pressure to the bars mainly, with *some* tongue pressure, but double jointed bits work mainly off of tongue pressure.

I'm just throwing this out there, but Parelli and Myler have just come out with a new bit they call the Parelli/Myler Cradle Bridle. Pat and Ron Myler developed a 3 specific bits for the Parelli program based on your horse's Horsenality. The bit itself is the same, but the amount of tongue relief is what differs. They don't have much info, out on it yet, but I believe they will start selling them at the end of this month.
    11-13-2007, 09:53 PM
So you guys think the grinding is likely due to the bit?
    11-14-2007, 06:52 AM
I would call Myler and see what they have to say. They are great people and very helpful. 1-800-354-3613 My guess is the bit. Better hold on to something when you get prices though.
    11-14-2007, 12:28 PM
It very well could be the bit. With my horse, I've noticed that when I ask him to go sideways or turn on the haunches, which I pick up contact with the reins, he gets VERY busy in the mouth and he braces some in his neck. I had no idea why....I was using barely any leg, I was doing things right in my body, etc. But then I read about how some horses need more tongue relief and how they will have the exact same "symptoms" as my horse does! And I'm using the double jointed JP by Korsteel bit, which is the same thing as the parelli confidence snaffle. Usually double jointed bits should be used to get a horse into a longer frame and to get them to reach for the bit, but to start asking for collection the horse may need more relief. Some horses NEED more tongue pressure, it's just based on their Horsenality.
    11-19-2007, 08:08 PM
What is confusing me is that she grinds in both the double and single jointed bits...those apply different kinds of pressure/relief. ??

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