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post #1 of 22 Old 09-22-2012, 01:28 AM Thread Starter
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Bit to hackamore

I just thought this was interesting. I put a hackamore on my mare to "test" her responses to my leg/seat..body in general. It gave me a lot of valuable feed back. I was really proud of her, she did outstanding.... except, one thing - she didn't move off of my leg pressure from a standstill (left or right). I only ever use bit pressure if I get a slow or no response otherwise. So, I am guessing that in the past I had consistantly had to go from leg to bit pressure to move out L or R from a standstill, but I never realized it. I think a hackamore (or halter if you feel that "sure") is such a great way to identify holes in training....I know I was pretty surprised to find that one!

And, I had to use next to zero pressure to get her to stop beautifully. She has always seemed unhappy about bits in her mouth. I even had her teeth checked twice, "just in case"..nada. I guess she just doesn't need one. :) I am not dropping them all together, yet...but I will "plan" her training in that direction.
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post #2 of 22 Old 09-22-2012, 10:48 AM
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I totally agree with you! I routinely spend time in the round pen riding with no bridle just to see where my "holes" are. Good for you!
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I totally agree with you! I routinely spend time in the round pen riding with no bridle just to see where my "holes" are. Good for you!
Wah, I no longer have a round pen. After reading your post, I really wish I had it back!!! I know she would do fantastic w nothing on in a round pen. Now I want to put it to the test! I suppose I could just go to a halter and only use it "in case".

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post #4 of 22 Old 09-23-2012, 09:50 PM
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You can lay the reins on the neck and just use them to correct a wrong response to a leg cue. It is fun to see what your horse will do without bridle cues.
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post #5 of 22 Old 09-23-2012, 10:30 PM Thread Starter
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that's what I do w the hackamore, g8...I use it as my "safety net" in the event she decides to attempt to leave dodge w me on her. :) Today, I figured out why she does a particular thing that she only ever does in the pen or arena...never on the trail. Its a long story..but suffice it to say it has puzzled me for a long while! I learn something everytime I use it!

In a round pen I would have the courage to take it all off. :)

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post #6 of 22 Old 09-24-2012, 12:51 AM
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I own a horse riding business on the Caribbean Ocean in Costa Rica. I retrained my horses not to use bits and have no problems with them. I can actually just put a rope on them and ride them. Once a horse is necked and reined trained properly they are easy to control this way I have found.
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Okay, beach rider, you have just depressed me. I wish I could be riding on the beach!!!! Like I needed that! ;)

So, you ride them w a halter?
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Yea, I'm interested too. Do you use a rope halter, or just a rope around the neck for balance? I really want to move my mare to a hack. My gelding was started in a rope halter. I have him in a hack right now. It helps me get his attention. That sounds bad, but I am a light handed rider, and he is like riding a big dog. He gawks at things on the trails. That don't bother me, b/c I just lean over and tap his neck and say his name to get his attention back. But if another horse would trot near us, he's get excited and want to go without being cued, and he ignored the rope all together. The hack works great at getting his attention enough to realize he is carrying me. LOL, he tries very hard to please me, but gets caught up tin the moment sometimes. Sorry I rambled, lol... I love that boy!

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Hi and thanks for the response .
I ride my horses and the guest do also with just a hackamore.
Here we call them a basaro. It's a simple rope halter that fits just like the bit around the nose, just no bit. When I first got them they were use to bits.
I can also just put a rope around their neck or make a make shift halter with a rope and ride them.
I believe once a horse is reined and neck trained you can even ride with out the leg pressure.
My riding guest are from every level of riding.

I also teach my non riding guest to ride, but don't go into all the detail of pressure riding.

I teach a system of riding with the rhythm of the horse so both rider and horse communicate better and they are both relaxed.

I hope this has helped.
You may also see my horses and were I ride on my web page: www.playachiquitaridingadventures.com

Or on my facebook page fb/brucsewalker

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Well, watched the video and now I am completely depressed! WOW! Just so you know in advance, if you ever complain about life - you will get no sympathy, here. :)

Whilst I do not have the "rhythm" of the beach :(...I am a firm believer in rhythm. It is this amazing thing that is "just there for the taking". I actually "accidently" learned that b/c I was born w a hot seat...I could get on the pokiest horse in the nation and have it move on out, which is only useful if the horse is pokey. :) To gain control of it (which took years) I had to sing cadence or nursery rhymes to "myself". One can't miss the response of a horse to rhythm. To bad I do not have a lovely voice.:)
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