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post #1 of 16 Old 10-27-2012, 11:29 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation to bit or not to bit

so before I got my horse, she had something happen to her tongue where she almost got it cut completely off, now there is a very large black scare at the BACK of her tongue. Okay, here is my problem, my horse HATES having the bit put into her mouth, she puts up a good fight. Today I kind of drew attention to myself by getting mad at my horse at a horse show, because she wouldn't let the bit in. So a couple people had to come help me get it in. ( SUPER embarrasing!) Someone suggested to put Molasses on the bit to get it in her mouth. Is there any other ways to help her know that the bit is NOT going to demolish her?

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post #2 of 16 Old 10-27-2012, 11:31 PM
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Does the show say you have to show in a bit? Why not try a bitless option? It's very possible that tongue scar causes discomfort. Or, perhaps her teeth need done? She might also not enjoy the action of the bit itself. What are you riding her in?

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...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #3 of 16 Old 10-27-2012, 11:33 PM
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There are deliciously flavored bits, but if she's had your bit in her mouth a number of times and still fights it, it's clearly not comfortable for her. Have you ensured the size and fit of the bit? Have you experimented with other bits? We have a therapy horse who was tongue twitched improperly by some awful previous owners, she now has a giant knot of scar tissue on her tongue. She needs to go in an unbroken bit with a medium port or a very deep mullen mouth. The scar on your horse's tongue, is it where the bit lies? If so you need a bit that has NO tongue contact. What type of bit are you using now? Also, when did she last have her teeth done?

ETA: just read Sorrel's post - yes bitless is a great option! I ride most horses with their own bitless preference bridle. If you're concerned about looks there are a number of bitless bridles being designed now with a very 'classic' look, and a number that can be used english or western. My favorite are the Indian Hackamores (which are neither used by Indians nor are they hackamores :P) But they're essentially a rope noseband that crosses under the chin, used for direct reining. I suppose you could neck rein in them too, it would just be less clear. There's also Dr. Cook's and a number of more classic looking direct reining options. What style do you compete in and what are the bit rules?

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Would it be possible to have a vet letter excusing her being bitted for competition? If she has an injury you may not find a bit that works for her.
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I'm under the assumption that after she nearly cut her tongue off that everyone was opening up her mouth and looking and fiddling around in there which has caused her to associate opening her mouth with pain/restraint.

If she works fine in the bit, that's good. But if it's just an issue of getting it in there WITHOUT the fight......I'd lay a sugar lump/small treat on my palm, lay the bit on my palm and have her reach for the treat while slowly lowering my hand so she opens that mouth up and gently raising the bit into her mouth simultaneously as she gets her treat. And I'd repeatedly do it (at home) so she starts reaching for the bit.......
I'm not one for giving treats.....but in this case I'd make an exception....
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post #6 of 16 Old 10-27-2012, 11:39 PM
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You can buy bit butter, wipes and spray that add flavor to the bit. Might encourage her.

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These kind of things are strange because I have a Mustang gelding whose tongue was almost cut off by the first owner's bit. I am his third owner and I didn't even know he even had a tongue scar until I had owned him several months and just happened to see it. He takes a bit just fine, even though it looks like the bit rests in the scar. And when I say "in" the scar, I mean IN the scar. It's a horrible looking, miss-aligned rift in his tongue. So I could totally understand if he had trouble with a bit but he doesn't for some reason.

If the bit isn't actually causing her pain and you just want to try something flavored to get her to accept it, try wrapping a fruit roll-up around the bit.
That's what I do with my 2 year old to get him to take the bit willingly. He loves it!

If that doesn't work after a few sessions it might be that she will never be comfortable in a bit due to her physical tongue problem. No one can blame her for that, it might be very uncomfortable. I guess it's a matter of figuring out if it is a mental issue or a physical one.
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Does the show say you have to show in a bit? Why not try a bitless option? It's very possible that tongue scar causes discomfort. Or, perhaps her teeth need done? She might also not enjoy the action of the bit itself. What are you riding her in?
The show doesn't say I have to show in a bit. I do have a bitless bridle, she is just not very responsive when I use it. Right now I am riding her in a tom thumb for Western and a loose ring snaffle in English.

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These kind of things are strange because I have a Mustang gelding whose tongue was almost cut off by the first owner's bit. I am his third owner and I didn't even know he even had a tongue scar until I had owned him several months and just happened to see it. He takes a bit just fine, even though it looks like the bit rests in the scar. And when I say "in" the scar, I mean IN the scar. It's a horrible looking, miss-aligned rift in his tongue. So I could totally understand if he had trouble with a bit but he doesn't for some reason.

If the bit isn't actually causing her pain and you just want to try something flavored to get her to accept it, try wrapping a fruit roll-up around the bit.
That's what I do with my 2 year old to get him to take the bit willingly. He loves it!

If that doesn't work after a few sessions it might be that she will never be comfortable in a bit due to her physical tongue problem. No one can blame her for that, it might be very uncomfortable. I guess it's a matter of figuring out if it is a mental issue or a physical one.
The owner who had her before me noticed it when she got her teeth floated. I can only see it if she yawns or opens her mouth Really wide. Ha ha! That's funny how you wrap a fruit roll up around it! I should try that. How much do you wrap around? Half? A quarter? The whole thing?

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