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post #1 of 39 Old 05-30-2013, 12:42 AM Thread Starter
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Ok, so my young horse has been started about 4 or 5 months ago and within the first month, i put a bit in her mouth because she was doing great. (she is 4 years so dont worry) but anyway, the bits i have put in her mouth all never work because she puts her tounge over them. do you think a roller bit would work to help distract her from putting her tounge over the bit?? im going to move to a more "western" bit when i can do barrels on her in a few years!! so will this work!? ---> Copper Roller Bit | Horses & Ponies | Gumtree Australia Whitsundays Area - Proserpine

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I always check to see if one of my mares headstalls is too loose because she gets 'crazy tongue 'and will put the bit under tongue- i started her in an indian bosal and when she would give to pressure flexin at the poll and laterally i started ridin in a nylon halter then kinda ghetto two reined with her till she got used to the curb bit and now she dont go all 'crazy tongue' on the bit, lol.

Juss wonderin- what bits have you tried out on her?
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I always check to see if one of my mares headstalls is too loose because she gets 'crazy tongue 'and will put the bit under tongue- i started her in an indian bosal and when she would give to pressure flexin at the poll and laterally i started ridin in a nylon halter then kinda ghetto two reined with her till she got used to the curb bit and now she dont go all 'crazy tongue' on the bit, lol.

Juss wonderin- what bits have you tried out on her?
she is HARD HEADED so i have used - a twisted snaffle, tom thumb (just to experiment) eggbutt snaffle, curb, and a few others just cant remember... i do have a full cheek snaffle but i can try it this weekend :/

OH and french link

also, i have tried a hackamore on her and she has been going with it fine, i just really dont want to do hackamore if i can still use a bit because im going to barrel race her when shes older and i feel you can turn better in bits :)
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Can you post a picture of her wearing a bit? And a picture of the side of her mouth without a bit? What does the inside of her mouth feel like? Is there a lot of room in her mouth, or less than normal?
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OK, whoa back a minute maybe, she has only been started 4 or 5 months and she is hard headed? I have a red flag waving, something isn't right with this set up, especially of you have tried all those bits including a twist on a greenie.

First thing as Toto says, check the bit is actually fitted right, I have one mare who plays with her bit terribly if the headstall is even one hole to loose.

Once you have a bit and a headstall that you are sure fits her, and is fitted properly, then back to basics with her training to soften her up again.

Personally I would stick with the French Link, just because I like them, I think they are a great starter bit. Don't worry yet about what she may wear in the future when you start barrels with her, you need in this case for sure to be able to walk before you can run
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OK, whoa back a minute maybe, she has only been started 4 or 5 months and she is hard headed? I have a red flag waving, something isn't right with this set up, especially of you have tried all those bits including a twist on a greenie.

First thing as Toto says, check the bit is actually fitted right, I have one mare who plays with her bit terribly if the headstall is even one hole to loose.

Once you have a bit and a headstall that you are sure fits her, and is fitted properly, then back to basics with her training to soften her up again.

Personally I would stick with the French Link, just because I like them, I think they are a great starter bit. Don't worry yet about what she may wear in the future when you start barrels with her, you need in this case for sure to be able to walk before you can run
This, this, this!

If she is having this many problems something is going wrong here.

Do NOT go up into anything with shanks. NO tum thumb, NO curb bit, nothing but a snaffle and preferably that french link. At this stage there is really no legitimate reason to bump up the bit, and training will fix her issues.

I too would like to see photos.

Do you have a professional to work with you?

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First of all, have you had a good equine dentist work on this horse's mount? A sharp tooth can be bothering this horse or this horse may need rounded bit seats to be comfortable in a snaffle.

The bit you showed I would doubt would work at all. It is thick and has little tongue relief so any horse that is a bit fussy in the mouth would not ride well in it.

Many horses do not like bits with a broken mouth -- even French link or dog bone bits. Some horses will accept broken bit if it has a steep curve in the 2 or 3 piece mouth so it does not lay flat on the tongue like a Myler. Some of these horses are very happy and respond very well in a Mullen mouth or a Myler with a lot of tongue relief. Some of these horses have a very thick tongue and others just will not work well in a bit that lays across their tongue.

I use Myler bits and handmade bits made by Greg Dutton a LOT. Even really broke horses often ride better in them.

Go to Myler's website. It has a lot of information about their mouthpieces. http://mylerbitsusa.com/index.shtml

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Can you post a picture of her wearing a bit? And a picture of the side of her mouth without a bit? What does the inside of her mouth feel like? Is there a lot of room in her mouth, or less than normal?
i would but i dont really have a camera right now, but i can post pics as soon as i get a computor cord fopr my phone to upload pics! hopefully this weekend!
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This, this, this!

If she is having this many problems something is going wrong here.

Do NOT go up into anything with shanks. NO tum thumb, NO curb bit, nothing but a snaffle and preferably that french link. At this stage there is really no legitimate reason to bump up the bit, and training will fix her issues.

I too would like to see photos.

Do you have a professional to work with you?
yeah i do have a professional trainer with me she has trained both her horses and she knows what she is doing she has trained many horses
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Stick to a snaffle this horse is far from trained enough for anything shanked.
I'd check her teeth and just experiment with different snaffles. My gelding hated my D ring but loves my trainers copper mouth full cheek however my old Arab gelding loved the D ring and hated full cheeks.
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