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        03-17-2013, 03:37 PM
    Bit troubles?

    My friend has a horse (this thread isn't for me. My friend doesn't have an account. I just want to help her out) who responds kinda iffy-iffy to the bit. Her horse is believed to be a Quarter Horse and Paint mix but she isn't sure. Her horse, whose name is Lady, was a rescue horse. She is a little green but nothing that my friend can't handle.
    ANYWAYS, the bit problem. She is hard in the mouth. My friend wants a way to make her softer and respond better. She already has a few training methods, such as bending her with the bit in her mouth, while riding, ummm, that's all I can think out of the top of my head (sorry!). So yeah. She just wants some training methods for a hard-mouthed horse.
    Thank you in advance!
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        03-17-2013, 03:57 PM
    What kind of bit is she riding in? How much training does the horse actually have? What exactly is the horse doing to make you think she's hard-mouthed?

    I've only ever dealt with one truly hard-mouthed horse. He had been ridden direct reined in a twisted wire snaffle with his head cranked down to his chest. Even after working at softening from the ground in a French link snaffle, he would still ignore the bit. So, you kind of had to bump his mouth instead of applying steady pressure or he would completely ignore you.
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        03-17-2013, 04:17 PM
    Show your friend these videos. I used to have hands of iron, I ruined a lot of horses because I pulled so much, but these tips helped me to understand how you teach a horse to be soft, and how to soften your own hands.

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        03-17-2013, 04:30 PM
    She rides in a D-ring snaffle. Her horse is 8, so she doesn't know exactly how long or how much the horse was trained. I'm not sure exactly. I asked her, but she hasn't replied yet. But she does take a little bit to slow down and stop. Although, that's probably normal for almost every horse.

    Thank you! I'll definitely show her those.
        03-17-2013, 04:33 PM
    Being slow to stop is usually due to the horse not knowing or understand the cue(s), not due to being hard-mouthed. Another thing to consider is if your friend is using her seat to stop the horse, or relying completely on the bit.
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        03-17-2013, 07:17 PM
    ALRIGHT. She thinks that Lady either had a past rider who had hard hands - who yanked on her mouth, wasn't finished training or hadn't been ridden for awhile. That's what she says at least.
        03-19-2013, 11:47 PM
    Try lots of transitions, and rewarding any change in speed when you ask for a downward transition or a halt. Use your seat and legs to steer and a horse will be less likely to brace.
        03-23-2013, 11:34 PM
    I'll tell her to try those things out. Thank you!
        03-24-2013, 04:25 PM
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    Work on her 'back-up'. No horse stops any better than they back up. No horse stops or backs any better than they 'give' their head and 'break' at the poll at a stand-still and in all gaits. All are interrelated and you cannot have the stop without the willingness to 'give' to the bit at the stand-still, forward gaits and the back-up.
        03-25-2013, 01:12 AM
    So, backing up with the bit. Make her give in then release? That's good too. I'll tell her that tomorrow. Thanks!
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