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    10-12-2012, 01:57 PM
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KSL
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Bit troubles and a weird quirk

So, I took y'all's guys advice and tried a bit with one of my mares that I've never ridden in one (kicker, the grey). You can see her pictures at http://www.horseforum.com/horse-conformation-critique/grey-qh-conformation-pedigree-hoof-questions-140140/page2/#post1716458.

Anyway, she has always been ridden in a hackamore/bosal/halter or something bitless. Before I got her, she was trained in a snaffle I believe.

I had an egg butt and the barn and tried riding it with her, after making sure the fit was correct and everything. She hates it. She just doesn't respond to it as well as a halter and I'm guessing its because that is what she is used to.

Anyway, I took her out to find some cows this morning and left the rope halter on under her bridle. Whenever she would take off or want to go, I would stop her with the bit, and it took a little while longer than normal. She normally isn't a super responsive horse like Sugar, but we are working on that. But, I stopped her once with the halter (one rein) and she slammed on the breaks.

How can I transition into a bit better? People say their horses respond better, but my horse def doesn't at all.

I didn't train this horse myself so I don't know much about her prior training.

This may be vague, so feel free to ask clarifying questions.


Also... This is odd.. But whenever I ride her she will turn around and lick my foot or the stirrup. She does it once or twice whenever we ride, but she did it more than often today with the bit. I'm wondering if its just a nervous habit... Anyone else's horses do this?
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    10-12-2012, 02:02 PM
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Green Broke
If the halter/hackamore is working why change it?

I'm all about not fixing something if it isn't broken.

Mine will sometimes turn and lick my boot, I've never considered it a nervous habit, just a quirk.
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    10-12-2012, 02:12 PM
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Yearling
KSL: I think you misunderstood the whole thread. Definitely understandable, since things got out of hand and everyone got quite defensive.

The point of what most were saying in the other thread was to ride each horse in what works best for them.

Some of our horses that work great in bits would respond JUST like your mare did with a bit. So... we shouldn't force the issue and make our horses work bitless, and you shouldn't force the issue and make your mare work in a bit.

Your mare works great bitless, so ride her bitless. There is absolutely no need to ride her with a bit unless you're planning on using her for a type of showing that requires it.

If you do need her in a bit for some reason, try a double jointed snaffle. She may not like the "nutcracker" action with a single jointed bit. It can be a big time trial and error to find a bit that works best for a horse. That's why I already have three for my new horse whose training starts on Tuesday. :)
     
    10-12-2012, 02:17 PM
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Showing
If she hasn't worn a bit in a long time she needs to just wear it daily for a week or so without using it. We used to do this in a box stall with supervision but since she rides well in a halter she can wear it then. If you're happy with the way things are then that's the way it is.
     
    10-12-2012, 02:31 PM
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KSL
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
If she hasn't worn a bit in a long time she needs to just wear it daily for a week or so without using it. We used to do this in a box stall with supervision but since she rides well in a halter she can wear it then. If you're happy with the way things are then that's the way it is.
I don't keep my horses in a box stall for over 10 or so minutes, ever. How long would I need to do this.

And I just figure everyone was saying horses respond so much better in a bit and everything and how hatters and bitless bridles are painful and bad...I'd try something different. She isn't a very responsive horse in the first place.
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    10-12-2012, 02:37 PM
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Yearling
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Originally Posted by KSL    
I don't keep my horses in a box stall for over 10 or so minutes, ever. How long would I need to do this.
I personally wouldn't do this. My horses wear their bits when working... not when stalled.

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And I just figure everyone was saying horses respond so much better in a bit and everything and how hatters and bitless bridles are painful and bad...I'd try something different. She isn't a very responsive horse in the first place.
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She may just need more time. I would try a double jointed snaffle with her. It could be that she needs more tongue relief than a single jointed snaffle provides.
     
    10-12-2012, 02:42 PM
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KSL
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Originally Posted by nikelodeon79    
I personally wouldn't do this. My horses wear their bits when working... not when stalled.


She may just need more time. I would try a double jointed snaffle with her. It could be that she needs more tongue relief than a single jointed snaffle provides.
I don't agree with letting them wear a bit when not working either. I don't especially like them when we are working. I might try that though.
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    10-12-2012, 05:46 PM
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Weanling
My mare, pepper will do the foot licking thing. Also if I havent ridden her in a while she will bite at the girth as well, like it itches her.

I just keep her feet moving and don't let her do that, other wise she will just constantly think about it.. and want to do it. Doesnt take long for her to get her mind off of it if I don't play into it. Kind of like itching a mosquito bite
     
    10-12-2012, 05:53 PM
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Weanling
Also this same horse HATES a snaffle. I even bought a life saver to see if she would like that better..NOPE> but she does love her short shanked dog bone jointed bit.

I don't get all the hype with getting your (not you just people in general)horse going in a snaffle. I get it for training purposes, but if your just riding.. why not just ride in the thing ( halter, whatever) your horse is going good in?
     
    10-12-2012, 05:55 PM
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KSL
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Originally Posted by peppersgirl    
also this same horse HATES a snaffle. I even bought a life saver to see if she would like that better..NOPE> but she does love her short shanked dog bone jointed bit.

I don't get all the hype with getting your (not you just people in general)horse going in a snaffle. I get it for training purposes, but if your just riding.. why not just ride in the thing ( halter, whatever) your horse is going good in?
That's what I thought too but apparently a bit is some magical thing that will make every horse more responsive and I'm a child/immature/braging/egotistical/showing off/an idiot if I only ride in a halter.
     

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