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  • Horse tried to bite me when cleaning hoof
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    07-26-2007, 09:14 AM
  #1
Foal
Biting

The lady that I got my horse from has a 13 year old mix, he looks to me like a morgan/arab/whatever. He has been a little bratty most of his life. But now that I help her take care of him I really do not want to get bit. She says you can't put your back to him and you have to be careful with your hands because given the opportunity he will bite. I have seen him try when I go to get him out of his stall. Anyway to break such a nasty habit?
     
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    07-26-2007, 10:41 AM
  #2
Foal
A good slap.

Our gelding used to be so nippy. He'd try to bite any chance he got, and managed to sink his teeth into me more than once. :roll:

So, when ever he'd reach out to nip, I'd give him a sharp slap on the neck or shoulder (just not the head, I never slap a horse on/near it's head and face). Biting is a bad, dangerous thing that you can't really let a horse get away with.
     
    07-26-2007, 12:25 PM
  #3
Foal
I stop biting horses by kicking them in its belly once, do not use your toe use the flat part of your foot. Just wait until he is just about to bite you and then kick, works every time only had one or two bite after that and just kick them again and never had them bite again. You can not hurt them by kicking them they get kicked by other horses al the time.
     
    07-26-2007, 12:55 PM
  #4
Foal
I am a very very natural trainer, and do not belive in hitting horses unless something or someone is in danger. So when my colt tried to bite me when I was tightening up his girth (i always do it very slow in several diffrent steps but since he was still young he was wondering what was tighening around his belly :roll: ) anyway he turned around nd tried to bite me and I belive biting and kicking are completly unexceptable and I have a zero tolerance for it and my horses will only try once them they get the point. So he tried and I used the palm of my hand and hit him once pretty hard in the jaw/jowl area. He hasen't ever tried it again. And I feekt bad about having to do it, but I think it is better to hit them once hard and not have to do it again where they get madder and madder b/c you are nagging them.

Now do not try this w/ a head shy horse, or a horse who is already scared of people. And always rub afterwards and go all over the head w/ your hands so you will not have a head shy horse.
     
    07-26-2007, 03:57 PM
  #5
Foal
I think its completely fine to hit a horse if they are doing something that is dangerous/unexceptable. Why think its horrid to hit a horse, when horses "hit" each other all the time? I.E.: Kicking.

If a horse is nippy with me I give him/her a firm slap in the muzzle. Yes, I hit the horse in the face. No, I never hit them near their eyes. I would say hitting a horse in the face for anything else is not a good thing, because they will become head shy. But biting can really hurt you, and hitting is ok in that instance. Just make sure you hit them in the nose only when they are biting, never any other time. Make sure you rub their nose/face often when they are not exhibiting biting behavior.

I had a mare who bit whenever you threw the saddle on and/or was doing the girth. Her previous owners were whack jobs, so she may have had bad experiences in the past. The first few times I yelled sternly at her when she nearly took a chunk out of me (she was a horse who knew a stern yell meant to stop), and gently did the girth to teach her I was no threat. I never saddled her improperly, and she had passed a vet check with flying colors (and never exhibited any symptoms of pain,etc.) so there was no excuse for her to continue the behavior. I slapped her in the nose when she tried to bite me and she soon quit. She was also never head shy because of it. She knew she was getting smacked as a direct result of her actions, because I always made sure to do a lot of rubbing of her forehead, stroking her muzzle etc. all the time.
     
    07-26-2007, 06:30 PM
  #6
Foal
I was told that an effective way to stop them is by scaring them with your voice like really loud yell as they are about to bite
     
    07-26-2007, 07:54 PM
  #7
Weanling
If any or all of you who have had success with biting horses, would like to come to my place and sort out my youngster Faith, then you are all more than welcome, and I'll make sure I have the BBQ going with lots of alcohol afterwards!!!

My problem, and I'm sorry to hijack the thread, is that Faith is not scared of ANYTHING or ANYONE!! She will not line you up and lunge, she does the whole, when you're not looking I'll strike. Luckily she has never connected with me, but she has got my husband and he was simply patting her over the fence.

I have tried: growling, smacking (nose, neck, side, practically any area I can reach before she runs off! ) tying her up, running her backwards with a rope halter etc. I now have to carry a piece of poly pipe under my arm on really bad days, when she sees it she knows I mean business as she has had a few, ummmm conversations with it prior. Poly is good as it make a loud sound but doesn't hurt more then smacking (I tested it on myself!)

I am hoping that she will eventually grow out of it (she's 3 now) or at least work out of it when she's under saddle (heading off to the breakers in September) as these are my last two options.

If anyone has any other methods, bar from taping her mouth shut, PLEASE HELP!!
     
    07-27-2007, 07:24 AM
  #8
Showing
Don't you think it may just go away after she'll get more "general" respect to you and work with her a lot on ground?

When my horse is getting pushy I usually slap her lightly on nose. It doesn't hurt her , she's not afraid of that , but she knows it's enough and I'm not happy with her. For 2nd one voice is usually enough to make her keep a distance.

BTW, I'v seen horses who hated being petted through the fence and tried to bite in response. Friends of mine let the new born colt to nibble on them. That was HORRIBLE! It's cute when he's month old, but it's not fun when he's getting older. They sold him, so I"m not sure how new owners like that "nice" habit.
     
    07-27-2007, 01:20 PM
  #9
Yearling
I have an eight year old gelding who I am sorry to say has not outgrown aggression over his fence/ in his pen despite my every effort. I finally put signs on his fence because people cannot refrain from approaching him and trying to pet him.

If in his pen, cleaning it, he has no problem, and does not bother you, but, when you try to give him any love or attention, he will pin his ears and trot away. When people try petting him over the fence, he always pins his ears and sometimes attempts to strike if you don't quit when he pins his ears. Kids can go into the pasture when he is in there with no problem to get out their lesson horses, but I have to tell them not to give him any attention. He does tolerate the affection and attention of the girl who has been leasing him for the last two years, I think because he trusts and respects her - this doesn't mean he doesn't sometimes still pin his ears with her, but it is much more rare.

Funny thing is, he is very respectful and a different, very fabulous horse once that halter is put on. If you approach with a halter, he does not show any aggression - he knows it is time to work, and I think he likes the purpose behind the interaction. He is respectful in hand (which he was NOT at age 3), and he is an awesome and very responsive riding horse.

He just has a few hang ups that may one day be corrected, but I have begun to accept him as he is (of course still correcting any unwanted behavior), and set up precautions.
     
    07-27-2007, 01:37 PM
  #10
Yearling
OK, OK, OK, NO HITTING, NO SLAPPING! All you have to do is when they try to bite, just grab his upper lip and twist it(not hard) or just hold it tight till he pulls away. It allways works.
     

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