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        07-27-2007, 02:45 PM
    There is nothing wrong with hitting/slapping if you aren't too rough and you only do it when he/she bites. Though I've never tried twisting the lip, I'm sure that would work just as well.
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        07-27-2007, 02:48 PM
    Originally Posted by AKPaintLover
    Funny thing is, he is very respectful and a different, very fabulous horse once that halter is put on. If you approach with a halter, he does not show any aggression - he knows it is time to work, and I think he likes the purpose behind the interaction. He is respectful in hand (which he was NOT at age 3), and he is an awesome and very responsive riding horse.
    We had a mare like this when I was working for a camp during my summers in college...she was terrible in the field, we wouldn't let the kids catch her; she was an aggressive kicker who would swing her butt on you and back up very quickly with the intention of catching you. She didn't like petting either. For riding though, she was one of the best horses we had; very responsive to aids, smooth gaits, moved out very willingly, unflappable on the trail, etc. She's also one of the few school horses I've ever met who could really differentiate between a novice and an experienced rider...both the kids AND the instructors really liked riding her.
        07-27-2007, 02:55 PM
    It's funny though. I remember horse like that at the farm. He was just 3 yo very big paint. Nicest horse to ride: most quiet one I ever ride. However in field he can kick or bite just for no reason. I'v seen him attacking the boy right next to me (thankfully I was quick enough to drag the boy behind my back). However the most funny thing is that he showed it only to certain people. So I assume they have certain tastes about us. Lol!
        07-28-2007, 02:05 PM
    Frog! I have the exact same problem with my gelding! He is fabulous to tack up, load, and ride and isnt nasty at all, no ears back or viscious biting or lunging for you, but he will nibble when im not looking. Again he has never got me as I am wise to it but I do worry that others will fall for his boyish looks and charm and have a chunk taken out of their arm etc!

    I too have tried everything!!! Shouting, driving him away (as an older horse would in the wild) He comes back with a sorry look on his face but then starts it up again and again and again!, also smacking on shoulder, head (i know awful! But I tried everything first!), neck, also backing him up, circling him (he thinks its a game!) and anything else that people have suggested!

    He started it after he had been gelded at 13months (weird I know!), and carried it on after being turned out with 4 older colts (to bully him-didnt work!), and also doing loads of ground work with him (he did every move asked of him down to sidepass and turn on the forehand etc but still couldnt resist a nibble!). He was then broken at 3yrs hoping that that would give him something to think about.....hes fabulous when you are on his back! You can do anything to him and he is very clever and is already working in medium dressage (now 4yrs) but still on the ground he nibbles! I never let him get away with nibbling as a foal but he can't stop-its an addiction!

    He comes at you with his mouth open and shakes his head...his ears do not go back and his eye stays sweet and so I started to use a tiny spray bottle with lemon juice in it and sprayed it in his stopped him the first few times but then he would go to nibble and leap backwards knowing full well what was coming (but he is not head shy in general-you can do anything to him)

    BUT I can't stop him nibbling! Some days he wont do it at all and others he'l be cronic! Its very strange!

    Elz x
        07-29-2007, 08:37 PM
    Yep, that sounds about right. Though my girl sounds slightly more aggressive. Like AK's boy she is fantastic once she has a halter on, and doing ground work she will not put a foot wrong. Even at a show she is a complete angel.

    I never molly-coddled her as a foal and she's always been treated as a horse. She gets her bitchiness from her mother, as she was an extremely dominant mare, but Faith has now taken it to another level with one exception, she is not the dominant pony in the paddock and every other horse tells her to rack off!! So basically I am dealing with a horse with 'little dog syndrome' She thinks way too highly of herself, which is great in the show ring, but not so great in the paddock.
        07-29-2007, 09:03 PM
    Pinch them quickly on the nostril with just a little skin (gives them a bit of a surprise and hurts alittle) and it is like a nip from another horse

    My pony used to be terrible he occasionly bites now but its quite rare and I jut did the pinching
        07-29-2007, 09:15 PM
    You gotta catch them first!! As soon as Faith threatens and I catch her doing it, she's off and out of reach which makes it a little bit hard to pinch he nose
        07-30-2007, 02:17 AM
    Yes well Sary did learn to keep out the way too

    So does this mean she is only biting when you are in hr paddock catching her or what?? Sorry if you already said this
        07-30-2007, 03:32 AM
    Usually at feed times is when she is the most aggressive, which is understandable as she is very possessive about her food.
    But she will also try and put people in there place if strangers are walking through her paddock, she will walk up to them acting all sweet and innocent, then flick her ears back and then out come the teeth. If I'm there, I can usually catch her before she connects by growling, she will then quickly dart away out of reach and pretend that nothing happened or she will come at you a lot worse!!
    She knows she is doing something wrong but can't seem to get in into her head that if she didn't do it, then I wouldn't get grumpy.
    It's very hard to get people to leave her alone as she is a pretty pony and they all seem to want to pat the pretty pony, not the old black horse who is so much more safer!!
    As I mentioned before, she is getting slightly better, so I am hoping that she will grow out of the worst of it, I'm not expecting a complete turn around but trusting her enough so that non horsey people can pat her would be nice.
        07-30-2007, 08:38 AM
    YEP! I know exactly what you mean frog! Tenny knows exactly what he is doing and also knows to move quickly when I see him coming! He is wise to the grabbing of the nose trick and wont have any of it! Catching them in the act is sooo much more difficult that poeple think! I have given him some serious hidings...with voice and loud smacking divices and it doesnt make a jot of difference (apart from the first few mins after the act!)

    Tenny is also the bottom ranking horse it the field! He does everything asked of him also and is dreamy to ride but he can't help himself when im on the ground....he doesnt do it at feed time, he knows that if he acts up he wont get his feed straight away and will have to watch all the others have theirs so I really can't see why he does it!!?? He gets nothing out of it....and looks at me like "whats your problem" when I get mad with him for doing it!

    He's also great with the grand kids!!! He has this huge respect and gentleness for the little people its just big people he likes to play up! He has never been spoilt and never treated like a baby, and he does absolutely everything asked but if im on the ground near him out come the teeth, he bucks kicks and sqeels when I run after him or yell like its a big game! Then comes back for more!

    Absolutely crazy!!

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