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        01-02-2013, 01:50 AM
      #11
    Yearling
    Stop him before he bites. In other words, prevent it. When he turns his face to you, or puts his head by something he would normally bite, or nip at, put your hand at the side of his nose, and gentally push away, if he keeps on putting it back, push it away until he keeps it away and respects the fact that he has to listen to you.

    Sometimes the horse will put their head back many many times, kind of testing you and their boundries. Be patient with this, don't surrender to the horse, make the horse surrender to you.
         
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        01-02-2013, 08:26 AM
      #12
    Super Moderator
    Just a symptom of bad manners.

    You can stop any 'nippy' horse in one try without hitting him and without making him duck, dodge or get head-shy, and he won't make a game out of it. Just hold a nail in our hand with the point sticking out between your fingers. Keep that hand between you and the horse and make sure he runs into it if he brings his head around. I have never seen a nippy horse that took running into that nail more than twice. Many only take one time. To a horse, it is like running into an electric fence. I would not want a horse that took very many tries at either one.
         
        01-02-2013, 12:53 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    You could also try a tack.

    Try really hitting him hard under the chin. Maybe you just aren't being hard enough and now he thinks he will just get a little tap so it isn't really registering that biting is unacceptable.
         
        01-02-2013, 12:55 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Breezy2011    
    Stop him before he bites. In other words, prevent it. When he turns his face to you, or puts his head by something he would normally bite, or nip at, put your hand at the side of his nose, and gentally push away, if he keeps on putting it back, push it away until he keeps it away and respects the fact that he has to listen to you.

    Sometimes the horse will put their head back many many times, kind of testing you and their boundries. Be patient with this, don't surrender to the horse, make the horse surrender to you.
    You were doing great for the first two sentences - but then you ventured into an approach that is creating a game of the whole thing rather than a situation where the horse develops a very clear understanding of the behavior being very, very wrong.
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        01-02-2013, 01:57 PM
      #15
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by paintgirl96    
    I don't hand feed him, I just get treats and stuff out for their feed with my gloves.
    I swat his face and back him up each time he bites at me or my phone.
    He's never just came up to me or anybody else and bit them or anything.
    And for biting horses, I've never noticed. He runs away from my mare's and geldings. He's the fleeing horse of the group, lol.
    Put the phone away and pay attention to your horses behavior. This horse is testing you and you are failing. He will continue to escalate until you make an impression. Correct him hard enough that he has no misunderstanding at all. Stop nagging and pecking at him and either use the nail, your elbow or hand and whap him a good one! You also need to stop making excuses for his behavior....ie your gloves smell like treats, you pulled you hand away too fast...etc. Believe me, I am dealing with one who was spoiled as a youngster by someone like you who never really corrected and made excuses for him-even after he double barrelled her ears ago she thinks him even considering moving his butt in a persons direction is ok.....). You will make your own problems if you do not correct this NOW and very very clearly.
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        01-02-2013, 02:06 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    My young one tested me. He got a couple of really hard lip twists and a lot of yelling and it worked. However, I wouldn't wait for him to decide the situation as you have to be well prepared to deal with it and quickly. I would set up the situation. For example when walking on a very loose lead mine would try to bite my hand that was closest to his mouth. So off we went for a lot of loose lead walks. I delibertely would put my hand closer to his mouth. He went for it and I was able to react instantly. He only bit me twice. I will still watch him when I lead him and I see his mouth moving and he will move his mouth towards my hand and then he thinks twice about it. It is a little funny seeing his brain just a going about not nipping my hand. He looks at my hand, chews a little and then decides not to. However, if this type of reinforcement did not work, then much harder reprimands would be in order. No one wants a horse that bites.
         
        01-02-2013, 05:46 PM
      #17
    Started
    I know that you give treats to your other horses. At this time he is not able to handle that. I have a horse that responds well to treats. Its been a big part of me teaching him a few things.

    I have another younger horse who was given treats and allowed to be mouthy. He will bite and mouth you if given the chance. So, he does not get treats. Getting treats is not a right, its a honor. If I can't trust you to have your mouth near me and be responsible then you don't get your mouth near me. This has not damped the horse spirit or made him like me less. Heck there was a time this summer where EVERY TIME I took him out he was reprimanded for something, walking to close, trying to mouth on me, not paying attention when leading, trying to nose dive for grass etc. Every time he did this I would correct him, and he would still meet me at the gate the next day eager to be yelled at again. Be your horses leader not its friend.
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        01-02-2013, 06:06 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
    Here's my theory on biting horses & how to stop it. It originates from the shoulder. Look at horses play fighting, they bite at each others' faces & other areas. The game usually ends when one attacks the other's shoulder & means it.
    I've had better luck stopping biting behavior with a smack on the shoulder than the face, plus it's a bigger target.
         

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