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post #11 of 25 Old 07-18-2010, 08:34 PM
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that's just bad training, bad training is bad training, doesnt matter what equitment is used. (its not even bad, I've seen a LOT worse WITH A BIT)

I doubt any really important dressage people EVER even HEARD of thise video, or most other bitless videos. Lol, so I don't think they are going to reject it because of it ;)

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post #12 of 25 Old 07-18-2010, 09:47 PM
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Pretty horse though:)
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Aw, how can you fault Elvis on a gorgeous golden palomino? Sorry, but it made me laugh! It was a fun circus event, that's all, nothing to get het up about.
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post #14 of 25 Old 07-20-2010, 09:03 PM
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Collection and general "well schooled" ness without a bit.

The performance was crap. With or without a bit, it would've been crap.

Going by that guys hadns, i'm glad he didn't have a bit...
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post #15 of 25 Old 07-20-2010, 09:21 PM
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I love that video, AngelEquestrian - I saw it once before and I love the rider!


It doesn't matter if anyone is riding with or without a bit - bad riding and bad training are universal.

You know who really fails at marketing bitless riding? Nurtural.
Here's an example.
They actually replied to some comments on the video.
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Hi. You may be right. He's not my horse and he is recovering from a very long term injury. I think that is different than a horse 'going lame'. He did not seem in any discomfort. Thanks for your concern.  Zoe
Just... Fail.

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post #16 of 25 Old 07-20-2010, 09:25 PM
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Great.
Yet another epic thread by spirithorse8 :roll:

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post #17 of 25 Old 07-20-2010, 09:33 PM
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I'm not quiteee sure what this is all abouot... But I train my pony in a regular old nylon halter.. For hunter comps. I don't know if I'lll br able to show him that way, but I'll try. Here' his progress (from April)-

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Collection and general "well schooled" ness without a bit.
Just my old man opinons;

Definitely a beautiful mover without a bit. Collected, some but not quite actual collection...hindquarters are not coming through as much as they can.

However, the rider is using it as if it was bitted. Horse dropping its head, head behind the vertical...etc.

Dressage whether bitted or bitless should be presented under the exacting stipulations of Article 401. That means we school poll high nose in front of the vertical.

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Just my old man opinons;

Definitely a beautiful mover without a bit. Collected, some but not quite actual collection...hindquarters are not coming through as much as they can.

However, the rider is using it as if it was bitted. Horse dropping its head, head behind the vertical...etc.

Dressage whether bitted or bitless should be presented under the exacting stipulations of Article 401. That means we school poll high nose in front of the vertical.
If you didnt notice (which you might nto have, the rider isnt making it very obvious) but everytime to horse 'sucks back' and goes behind the bit, she corrects him and is trying to push him up from that.

Collection doesnt just suddenly happen, you need to slowly make the horse have the muscles to collect more and more each time you ride. Its not suddnly flicking a switch and the horse is prefectly collected.

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Here are a few silly comments from me.

The horse was a TWH...if you were looking for a perfectly on the vertical, you would lose the gait. I was taught that a walker isn't a walker without a good nod. That being said, the OP's video was lame and tiresome. Nice horse ridden by an obvious novice. Nothing more, nothing less.

Second video of bitless dressage...you guys have a problem with bits but not with a rider 'encouraging' every stride with a bump from a spur? Just a question. Not judging...I ride with a bit and occasionally with spurs. I figured if you hated one, you would probably hate another?

Third video...um...what does a torn tendon have to do with a bitless bridle? That horse is dead-lame and shouldnt be ridden with that much of a limp.

Again...these are just comments. Not made to start arguments or stir the crap. I believe if you aren't starving or beating your horse...you are okay in my book.
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