Originally Posted by bgood400
I think I would try some sort of thinner twisted snaffle and if that's not working then move on to a bit with a little bit of a port. You many also want to work on a lot of bending and circles.
thinner/twisted and ported all = pain. By teaching a horse that bit = pain, and pain = stop, we take away the quality of our ride and the communication with our horse. Riding goes from being a conversation on teamwork to becoming a message of dominance/submission that often results in deterioration of training over time as the horse learns to resent rather than revel in the job asked of them.
Most important in bitting a horse is to find one that they like and respond to and listen to. The more a horse listens to the bit, the more the seat and leg are also effective, and the lighter the rides aids can be. Remember if a horse can feel a fly land on their skin, even the strongest horse can feel the mildest of bits in their mouths. It's just a matter of teaching them the responses to that bit and how we go about doing that which matters.
And fyi a mullen mouth pelham is actually a very mild bit when used properly as it has little mouth pressure, no nutcracker action and depending on the horse's preference, mild even tongue pressure. A low port variation of this will provide some tongue releif without adding any counteraction onto the roof of the mouth to cause pain.