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        11-22-2009, 09:50 PM
      #11
    Showing
    I have to agree with Kevin, that if you really need to ask, then IMHO, you are not prepared to train a young horse.

    That being said, any bit with a 1:1 ratio (regular snaffles, whether they are d-ring, full cheek, loose ring). Avoid anything with shanks no matter how many people tell you "They are wonderful for training young horses". Shanked bits are designed for the more broke horse who understands neck reining and being responsive without having to contact the bit very much at all. Shanked bits are designed to be ridden with one hand on a loose rein.
         
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        11-22-2009, 10:39 PM
      #12
    Started
    I start working with horses in a rope halter hackamore to get the basics down. Then I go to a Myler Level 1 snaffle....and once the horse is ready for collection I go to the JP by Korsteel oval mouth copper loose ring snaffle (love that bit!) for teaching a horse to be confident with contact and to stretch into it. Then I progress to the Parelli Cradle Bridle for our refinement.

    I avoid single jointed snaffles now. They pinch and poke the horse's mouth and a lot of horses really don't like them. It's uncomfortable, that's why I love the Myler Level 1 snaffles, it has a little roller in the middle to eliminate the nut cracker action.
         
        11-22-2009, 11:50 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    I have an 8 year old gelding who has never been worked with or ridden until I got him about 6-7 weeks ago and I just introduced him to a D ring french link snaffle with a copper mouthpiece and he accepted it absolutely beautifully. He is completely relaxed in it. Granted I haven't used the reins on him yet. I have only lunged him with it, but just the fact that he responds to all my lunging commands in a very relaxed manner has me encouraged that this bit was a good choice. I'm so excited that I think I'm going to switch my other horse to it. He's a sweet, old boy in his mid 20's that my children ride. I'm just using a simple eggbutt single joint snaffle on him but my kids don't always have the softest hands and I think the french link is really the way to go for the horse's comfort. My old boy deserves it. So I say french link all the way.
         
        11-23-2009, 12:06 AM
      #14
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arab123    
    what kind of bit do you use in training a horse? I have heard a snaffel but are there two kinds of snaffel bits???
    Bit Information (Snaffle and English-Type Bits)
    Hope that link helps :)
         
        11-23-2009, 11:54 AM
      #15
    Yearling
    I feel a double jointed mouthpiece allows the correct amount of play within a young horses mouth, so they don't just have a dead weight in their mouths. And then a full cheek or eggbutt snaffle to prevent pinching their mouths. Also, don't use any other nosebands besides the cavesson, or even no noseband would be better. Use as little gadgets as you possibly can.

    Good luck.
         
        12-11-2009, 01:46 PM
      #16
    Foal
    Bits are designed for lots of different things. Most people have favorites but remember that the horse will never be lighter to the cue and the bit than the pressure used in training.
         
        12-11-2009, 02:08 PM
      #17
    Banned
    I tried several snaffle's on my mare (different material, full cheek, loose ring, etc) and she did fine but she seems to like the french link I bought the best.

    Is there an option to try different bits? Do you have friends who have different bits you can try?
         
        12-11-2009, 03:44 PM
      #18
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 5cuetrain    
    remember that the horse will never be lighter to the cue and the bit than the pressure used in training.
    You don't get soft horses by being soft all the time. If the horse ignores the bit he is going to become hard mouthed and just run right threw it. Teach respect for the bit and that at times means pulling him down hard and fast and then release and be gentle once again.

    If all your cues are soft then the horse learns no respect for the cue. Apply the cue softly and when the horse doesn't respond give him the cue very hard. He quickly learns not to ignore the soft cue because he knows the harsh one is to follow.

    As for bits I feel anyone starting a horse in a halter is just asking for a hard mouth animal so to speek. This is from a guy that ran bitless for 20 plus years.
    I use a D ring copper snaffle but feel a running martingale offers alot of aid if NEEDED and does nothing if the horse doesn't try running through the bit.

    If your horse intimidates you and you ride with fear you will never get the most out of a horse.
         

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