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    09-21-2011, 04:54 AM
  #1
Yearling
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So I'm new to owning my first horse(been riding years, just never owned one until now) And the owner of the horse I'm buying is helping me get all the equipment needed and showing me what sizes to get etc. But I was wondering, what does this bit do? This is the one she gave me to buy so what does this bit do, is it harsh at all? Whats its purpose? Or any other information I should know...
     
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    09-21-2011, 06:58 AM
  #2
Weanling
A good bit, though i'd call it a fulmer snaffle not a tom thumb like the label says to avoid confusion with a bit of lesser quality. Very popular here in australia for horses working in feedlots and breaking young horses. Essentially the same as any other snaffle but the cheekpieces stop the bit pulling through the horses mouth. Just like anything else, it's just as harsh as the person using it. Not sure why the cheek pieces are flat, but that wouldnt do much other than make it a little more severe.
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    09-21-2011, 07:04 AM
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Yearling
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Originally Posted by christopher    
a good bit, though i'd call it a fulmer snaffle not a tom thumb like the label says to avoid confusion with a bit of lesser quality. Very popular here in australia for horses working in feedlots and breaking young horses. Essentially the same as any other snaffle but the cheekpieces stop the bit pulling through the horses mouth. Just like anything else, it's just as harsh as the person using it. Not sure why the cheek pieces are flat, but that wouldnt do much other than make it a little more severe.

Thankyou for that, I'm honestly not sure if I have ever used one with those long parts on the end so wanted to know what it was like. Im not someone who pulls on the mouth alot so I'm sure I will be okay with it. The horse I'm riding is only 6 years old, 16hh throughbred(not off track).
     
    09-21-2011, 09:28 AM
  #4
Yearling
I don't know much about the australian tomb thumb but I used to have this bit until my pony decided the cheek pieces on the side were better in his mouth. Other than that, I found it rather good, every horse is different though.
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    09-22-2011, 06:23 AM
  #5
Yearling
Oh yea, about it being harsh, you will see alot of websites about tomb thumbs saying how 'cruel' they are, I don't think it is aiming at this type. Eg, yes, in my opinion the man goes over the top and makes it sound worse but it explains why he thinks they are so bad. The parts he thinks are bad are not on the Australian Tomb thumb (that I know of?) and I see the Australian version as more of a snaffle than tomb thumb.
     
    09-22-2011, 06:46 AM
  #6
Weanling
Thats why i'd call it a fulmer not a tom thumb
     
    09-22-2011, 07:11 AM
  #7
Trained
It IS a Tom thumb - the Australian Tom thumb, not a fulmer. The cheeks are shorter, flat, and don't require keepers.

Completely different to the American Tom thumb which is a short Shanked broken mouth curb.
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    09-22-2011, 07:39 AM
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Weanling
Full cheeks + loose rings = fulmer IMO. Shouldn't matter that the cheeks look a bit different. Didn't say it wasn't a tom thumb, just said I wouldn't refer to it as one.
     
    09-22-2011, 09:52 AM
  #9
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by ItzKayley    
Oh yea, about it being harsh, you will see alot of websites about tomb thumbs saying how 'cruel' they are, I don't think it is aiming at this type. Eg, Why is a Tom Thumb bit the worst bit around and is NOT a snaffle - Rick Gore Horsemanship - YouTube yes, in my opinion the man goes over the top and makes it sound worse but it explains why he thinks they are so bad. The parts he thinks are bad are not on the Australian Tomb thumb (that I know of?) and I see the Australian version as more of a snaffle than tomb thumb.
This is about the American/Western Tom Thumb, not the Australian tom thumb that the OP is talking about, just to avoid the confusion

The AUS one if a snaffle, the American one is a curb.

The AUS TT is a nice bit, IMO.
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    09-22-2011, 10:51 AM
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We sometimes forget that different countries have different names for bits. Just because Americans call it a fulmer-type bit doesn't mean everyone must call it that. The Australian tom thumb is a correct name....in Australia....and we ought to respect that.

I like the Aussie TT. I wish we saw it more in the states.
     

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