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    09-08-2013, 10:34 PM
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Green Broke
Exclamation Bits.. whats the difference?

Okay Here are a couple bits. .

Now.. what are the differences( obviously there are some. I just don't get bits lol:).. and what are the Pros and Cons of using the bits on a beginner barrel horse.. that just needs some lift and flexing.:) thanks

Westen AT Dot Dogbone Long Sliding Gag Bit - Horse.com

Westen SS Snaffle Long Cheek Training Bit - Horse.com

Anyone have a good bit? The second one. I was really just wondering why the things are sooo long?

And thanks

Not sure if either of those bits are good for barrel racing:) any info appreciated
     
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    09-08-2013, 10:44 PM
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Super Moderator
Neither link works.
     
    09-08-2013, 10:48 PM
  #3
Foal
Definite no for the second, I wouldnt put that on a horse I hated. I personally don't care for twisted wire, but I think that bit is a little better. I know horse.com has some pretty good bits, ill post links in a few
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    09-08-2013, 10:48 PM
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Trained
The second one...just no. It's not a snaffle, for one thing. For another, those shanks are almost cruely long. I didn't read how long they are, but I would think that with as long as they are, they'd have a ratio of 1:3+. Meaning for every pound of pressure you exert on the bit, the shanks magnify that by three times...or more. Combine that with a single joint mouthpiece...yikes!!!
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    09-08-2013, 10:52 PM
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Green Broke
^^ There 9 iches.. 0.0 and ok;) anything helps:) as I am looking for a new bit for Sunny and barrels:)
     
    09-08-2013, 10:53 PM
  #6
Weanling
Well I wouldnt use either bit on a beginner barrel horse. The first one because it is a twisted wire mouthpiece which can be quite severe and if used incorrectly could make the horse hardmouthed. The second I wouldnt use because it has really long shanks and can also be quite severe. What bit are you using on your horse now?

And I also suggest to buy your bits at a feed or tack store because sometimes when you buy online the quality is questionable.
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    09-08-2013, 10:56 PM
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Green Broke
Im not sure exactly what the bit is called. My neighbor told me to try it on him.. but I know its twisted wire. And has the rope nose piece up top. I have no idea what bit to try out ATM either.. just something to help lift him up.. and get more flex? Maybe haha:)
     
    09-08-2013, 10:58 PM
  #8
Trained
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Originally Posted by LouieThePalomino    
And I also suggest to buy your bits at a feed or tack store because sometimes when you buy online the quality is questionable.
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This isn't as much true when buying bits. For example, I found a bit that smrobs uses and suggested to me at my local CAL Ranch store. She posted a link for the exact same bit on the Chicks Saddlery website. As long as you double-check the material/metal content when buying online, you should be fine.
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    09-08-2013, 11:04 PM
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Foal
Westen SS Dogbone Copper Roller O-Ring Bit - Horse.com I personally want this snaffle
Western BS Dogbone Tear Drop Training Bit - Horse.com nice smooth mouth dogbone
Westen SS Lifesaver Sliding Short Gag Bit - Horse.com short shank gag
Well, I hope you get the picture now. Notice no combo bits, no long shanks and no single jointed bits. I have used all these bits on several horses and they were accepted by all.
     
    09-08-2013, 11:05 PM
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Green Broke
I personally love this bit. I usually use this one specifically as my transition bit between a snaffle and a curb (unless the horse already started in a hack, then I usually go straight to this bit).

Western BS Dogbone Tear Drop Training Bit - Horse.com

The first bit I actually like, aside from the twisted mouthpiece. If it were a smooth mouthpiece it would be a decent option.
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