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  • Training an ottb to stand quiet while mounting

 
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    07-02-2011, 01:36 PM
  #11
Foal
YES.... Agree with Abbey, I used to be an exercise rider at a training track. I can almost gaurentee that your mare is only doing what she thinks you want. TB's in training are usually trotting down the isle in the shed row with the handler as the trainer thows the jockey up on their back, and away they go.

You just need to treat her as a baby and and start from the ground up with ground work. Re-training her as a riding horse not a race horse. And keep in mind she doesnt know the difference so ,no need to punish her for not knowing
     
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    07-03-2011, 12:56 AM
  #12
Yearling
I think Velvet, Abbey and Tamibunny hit the nail on the head. First she needs to learn to stand quietly for mounting. If you have a couple of people willing to help, have one hold her while the other gives you a leg up. When you are finished riding, dismount at the block. Once you can mount with a leg up and she stands quietly for that, then you can begin mounting from the block doing the same as before, having someone hold her while you mount from the block until she gets it and stands quietly for you to mount without being held.

Good luck!
     
    07-04-2011, 08:16 PM
  #13
Foal
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
Hello and welcome to the forum. Happy to have you here!

There could be many reasons at play here, that are causing the results you are getting. Firstly, how are you positive that the saddle correctly fits? Does it fit well without any pads on? If so, adding the gel pad is just making it worse...besides, gel pads are garbage. Reason being is because they do not take the force of the saddle, nor do they evenly dispurse the pressure points that the saddle creates. Instead, the gel moves away from the pressure, allowing the pressure points to remain. Gel pads and foam pads, garbage.

http://www.horseforum.com/horse-tack...lly-fit-58116/


Also, this could be a pain issue - I would have a chiro come and assess your mares back, poll, jaw, nect, withers, shoulders, hips. There could be a vertibra out, her pelvis could be tilted, who knows. There could be something going on joint wise - have you had xrays done and a correct and thorough vet check to ensure that there is nothing going on in the hocks, stifles, knee's, ankles, back, hips, pelvis - etc, etc???

Another issue that could be at play here, is that she could have a cold back. Do you thoroughly lunge her before you get on?

I would re-assess your saddle. I would hire a professional saddle maker/fitter to come out and check this out to be sure. I would also get a vet involved, and an equine chiro. Eliminate, eliminate, eliminate any question at hand. This could be far more than just a "abuse" issue.

If this horse is friendly with you on the ground, and not so when you get on - PAIN ISSUE screams out at me.


In response to this post above, though pain really can be a huge issue for horses with track experience, I disagree that its the case for your horse. Here is my reasoning, you stated that she is fairly well behaved once you are actually on. Well in my experience if a horse is truly in pain the minute your on they will either fall or throw your butt off. However gel pads are also not the best in my opinon though they will work. All the chiro work , professional saddle work and vet work described above will cost you a fortune unless you are wealthy today this all is not a realistic response to curing mounting issues. Having worked at a horse rescue, I have had an immensly similar experience and ABUSE ISSUE screams out at me personally, as that was the case with Teeny. Good Luck, and I reccomend patience haha though it can be hard.
     
    07-05-2011, 12:35 PM
  #14
Green Broke
Nice to see a thread with differing opinions but no bashing!

Perhaps my post came off a little harsh. I was not suggesting that you should force yourself on her like she is some sort of unsuspecting victim. But getting up there calmly and quietly is really the only way to show her that mounting is not a predescesor to something horrible when you get into the saddle.

Repetition, lots of it IMO. The first time she stands quietly for you, I would congratulate her, get off and end it there for the day.

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Originally Posted by VelvetsAB    
If she is an OTTB, I doubt she would be used to having someone climb up on a step to get on her. As far as she knows, the mounting block is a horse eating monster.
Great point Velvet, being mounted rather than legged up will be unfamiliar to her for a while.


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Originally Posted by Tamibunny    
YES.... Agree with Abbey, I used to be an exercise rider at a training track. I can almost gaurentee that your mare is only doing what she thinks you want. TB's in training are usually trotting down the isle in the shed row with the handler as the trainer thows the jockey up on their back, and away they go.
I respectfully disagree to this. I was an excercise rider too and yes, horses will be trotting or moving as you are legged up but the OP describes a horse that is BOLTING. I have never seen any jock or track rider mount a bolting horse. This sounds like a fearful horse to me, not one that is trying to do the right thing.

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Originally Posted by Horse Poor    
I think Velvet, Abbey and Tamibunny hit the nail on the head. First she needs to learn to stand quietly for mounting. If you have a couple of people willing to help, have one hold her while the other gives you a leg up. When you are finished riding, dismount at the block. Once you can mount with a leg up and she stands quietly for that, then you can begin mounting from the block doing the same as before, having someone hold her while you mount from the block until she gets it and stands quietly for you to mount without being held.

Good luck!
Having a couple of people to help is a great idea, safer for you and reassuring for your girl.

Good luck!
     

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